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Date: November 01, 2024 at 14:19:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: CNN contributor takes back Cheney ‘firing squad’ quip: ‘I was wrong’ |
URL: CNN contributor takes back Cheney ‘firing squad’ quip: ‘I was wrong’ |
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well there is at least one person at cnn with the integrity to admit trump’s comment was misrepresented. anyone here feel the same way?
anyone? not likely here i suppose
CNN contributor takes back Cheney ‘firing squad’ quip: ‘I was wrong’
BY ASHLEIGH FIELDS - 11/01/24 3:13 PM ET
Political analyst Jonah Goldberg retracted comments made during a Friday CNN appearance in response to former President Trump’s criticism of former Rep. Liz Cheney’s (R-Wyo.) foreign policy.
“This morning on CNN I referred to Trump’s ‘rifles’ quote as him advocating a ‘firing squad’ for Liz Cheney. I was reacting in haste to what were objectively appalling and irresponsible comments that had been framed in the set-up piece in the context of previous statements Trump made about shooting protestors and having generals ‘executed,’” Goldberg wrote in a statement posted to the social platform X.
He added that his comments were “wrong” and did not encompass the true meaning of the former president’s remarks. “Trump was making – albeit in his customary fashion – a different argument about Cheney’s alleged foreign policy views and the use of force,” Goldberg stated. “I let my disgust at Trump’s comments get the better of me as this was the first time I’d heard them.”
“I regret the initial comment because it was inaccurate and contributed to the kind of overheated environment Trump thrives on,” he continued. “Trump’s words were bad enough.”
The Republican nominee labeled Cheney a “radical war hawk” on Thursday.
“Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK. Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face,” Trump said. “You know, they’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, ‘oh, gee, we’ll, let’s send — let’s send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.’”
He faced immediate backlash for the violent language.
Later, the Trump campaign clarified the public comments, which were made at a fireside chat with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in Arizona.
“President Trump is 100% correct that warmongers like Liz Cheney are very quick to start wars and send other Americans to fight them, rather than go into combat themselves. This is the continuation of the latest fake media outrage days before the election in a blatant attempt to interfere on behalf of Kamala Harris,” said Karoline Leavitt, Trump campaign national press secretary.
Cheney also responded through a post on X comparing Trump’s rhetoric to a “dictator.”
“This is how dictators destroy free nations. They threaten those who speak against them with death,” Cheney said. “We cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant. #Womenwillnotbesilenced #VoteKamala.”
Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney and once the third-ranking House Republican, is one of the highest-profile GOP figures to endorse and campaign for the Harris-Walz ticket.
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 15:23:19
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: CNN contributor takes back Cheney ‘firing squad’ quip: ‘I was... |
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"with nine barrels shooting at her,"
If someone who has the power of causing other's to take violent action in their stead said that about me I would interpret it to mean they were suggestion to their violent followers that I should be shot.
How could you possibly interpret it otherwise?
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 15:42:59
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: CNN contributor takes back Cheney ‘firing squad’ quip: ‘I was... |
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why interpret it? why not just go with what he said? a person would have to either be an idiot or extremely dishonest to claim “Trump literally puts out a contract on Liz’s life”
here is the actual quote again. the same could be said about a war hawk like you who constantly promotes foreign wars while sitting safely on your island
“Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK. Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face,” Trump said. “You know, they’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, ‘oh, gee, we’ll, let’s send — let’s send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.’”
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 15:51:29
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
URL: During his Glendale appearance, Trump suggested his Republican critic should face 'nine barrels shooting at her' |
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"why interpret it?"
Full Headline: Arizona's top prosecutor investigating Trump's comments about Cheney as possible death threat
PHOENIX — Arizona's top prosecutor tells 12News she is investigating whether Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump violated state law by making a "death threat" against former GOP Rep. Liz Cheney during remarks Thursday night at an event in Glendale.
"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws," Attorney General Mayes, a first-term Democrat, said during Friday's taping of "Sunday Square Off."
"I'm not prepared now to say whether it was or it wasn't, but it is not helpful as we prepare for our election and as we try to make sure that we keep the peace at our polling places and in our state."
Trump was interviewed Thursday night by former Fox TV host Tucker Carlson at an arena event in Glendale.
Here's what Trump said:
"She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."
The "nine barrels" comment has been interpreted as suggesting Cheney could face a firing squad.
"This is how dictators destroy free nations," Cheney said Friday in a statement on social media. "They threaten those who speak against them with death. We cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant."
Under Arizona law, threatening or intimidating a person is illegal. It can be charged as a Class 1 misdemeanor or Class 6 felony.
Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt responded: "This is just a desperate attempt to help out Kamala Harris’ failing campaign.”
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 16:30:11
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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exactly! why interpret it. it is pretty obvious some dishonest people are trying to interpret that as a firing squad which is absurd. probably one of the tv talking heads started that shit which sounds like people are getting desperate. ever hear someone standing in front of a firing squad with a rifle? lol
reminds me of the idiots last spring who tried to claim trump’s economic bloodbath remark was a violent threat
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 17:00:46
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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Exact words transcribed from Trump:
"Let's put her with the rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her," Trump said. "OK, let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."
Guns are plural. Standing there with guns trained at her face. At least nine barrels trained at her face.
This is an honest rendering of Trump’s words.
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 17:09:58
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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Heynow, etc.! Nice to see you again..
The point, which I believe OT is avoiding.. it the three words..
"shooting at her"
That's a dog whistle for sure.. he put out a contract on her life. That's legally terroristic threatening.
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 17:34:08
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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Hi ao. Just popped in a bit.
You are correct. The exact words cannot be made unthreatening. The intent is clear. I hear Cheney, who already had to up her guard detail, had to further engage more protection.
Words matter. Exact words matter. OT has to try to distract because there is no way to get around Trump’s violent spoken desires. Unlike many honorable republicans, OT keeps working from Trump’s coattails. OT does, however, know how to hold his nose.
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 17:08:32
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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that isn’t completely what he said. words matter and when all the words are repeated it is clear he was talking about war hawks in a combat zone and not a firing squad. the sad thing is there are journalists trying to convince gullible people trump was talking about a firing squad lol
“Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK. Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face,” Trump said. “You know, they’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, ‘oh, gee, we’ll, let’s send — let’s send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.’”
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Date: November 01, 2024 at 17:22:08
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Prosecutor investigating Trump's comments as possible death threat |
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You’re screaming words matter but don’t give a shit about the vile words that come out of trumps mouth.. you whined when trump claimed words matter after he ‘got shot’ saying it was the Dems fault for calling him a threat to democracy but you NEVER say a word as Trump spews vile words day after day.. tells his followers to shoot someone and you stick your head up your ass and whine words matter.
You’re sick OT. You are a threat to democracy.
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