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Date: October 30, 2024 at 16:38:06
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables' Moment?

URL: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables' Moment?


Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables' Moment?

Published Oct 30, 2024 at 10:25 AM EDT
Updated Oct 30, 2024 at 12:57 PM EDT


By Khaleda Rahman
National Correspondent


President Joe Biden's remark apparently calling Donald Trump's
supporters "garbage" quickly brought a backlash, but experts told
Newsweek it is unlikely to have much of an impact on the election.




The president made the comment in response to a comedian who called
Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage" at Trump's Madison Square
Garden rally in New York City, where some speakers made crude and
racist remarks on Sunday.

Puerto Ricans are "good, decent honorable people," Biden said on a call
organized by Voto Latino, a grassroots advocacy organization, on
Tuesday.

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters," he said in a
reference to Trump, according to the White House transcript of Biden's
remarks. "His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-
American."


White House spokesman Andrew Bates told Newsweek that Biden was
referring "to the hateful rhetoric at the Madison Square Garden rally as
'garbage.'"


Biden also took to social media to clarify his remarks. "Earlier today, I
referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's
[supporters] at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage — which is
the only word I can think of to describe it," he wrote on X (formerly
Twitter). "His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That's all I
meant to say."


Trump and others have compared the remark to then-Democratic nominee
Hillary Clinton's comment in 2016 that half of Trump's supporters could
be placed in a "basket of deplorables" during a private fundraiser. Her
remark became a rallying cry for many of Trump's supporters.

In September, Clinton acknowledged in an opinion piece in The
Washington Post that her choice of words had been "unfortunate and bad
politics." But she added that "'deplorable' is too kind a word for the hate
and violent extremism we've seen from some Trump supporters."

Trump and his campaign have sought to tie Biden's "garbage" comment
to Vice President Kamala Harris, who is trying to win over a broad base of
voters—including moderate Republicans—ahead of November's election.
"I pledge to be a president for all Americans and to always put country
above party and self," she said in a speech billed as her campaign's
closing argument at the Ellipse, near the White House, on Tuesday night.

She told reporters on Wednesday that she "strongly" disagrees with "any
criticism of people based on who they vote for" and noted that Biden had
clarified his remarks. "You've heard my speech last night and
continuously throughout my career. I believe that the work I do is about
representing all the people, whether they support me or not," she said.

Costas Panagopoulos, a political science professor at Northeastern
University, said Biden's remark is unlikely to have the impact that
Clinton's did in 2016.

"The MAGA base is already locked in. This is unlikely to have much impact
with them," he told Newsweek.




"Biden has already walked back his comment, but perhaps more
importantly, and unlike Hillary Clinton in 2016, he is not the candidate," he
continued. "Campaigns can still be held to account for what surrogates
say and do on the trail, but only to a certain extent. Ultimately, the
candidates' words and actions matter much more."

Grant Davis Reeher, a political science professor at Syracuse University,
said Biden's comment did remind him of Clinton's "deplorables" remark.

"But at this point, given all we've heard from both sides for eight years,
from 's***hole countries' to 'fascist' and 'Hitler,' I don't think this adds
anything new," he told Newsweek.


"Most voters are discounting Biden at this point and focusing on Harris.
So more than anything else I think it's just another moment to file in the
political polarization and dysfunctional political dialogue folder. Given the
context, this does not rise to an October surprise event," Reeher said.

Biden's comment "was highly ill-advised, to put it mildly," Thomas Gift, an
associate professor of political science and director of the Centre on U.S.
Politics at University College London, told Newsweek.

"Still, it's doubtful the comment will have a big negative impact on Kamala
Harris' electoral chances," he continued. "The difference with Hillary
Clinton's 'basket of deplorables' remark in 2016 was that she was the
candidate that year, whereas Joe Biden now isn't. Harris can't be held
accountable for everything her boss says, and as long as she distances
herself from the comment, that should be enough damage control."

The Harris campaign has been contacted via email for comment.


Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt cited an earlier
statement when contacted for comment.

"There's no way to spin it: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris don't just hate
President Trump, they despise the tens of millions of Americans who
support him," Leavitt told Newsweek. Harris "does not deserve four more
years. President Trump will be a president for ALL Americans."

The Trump campaign sent out an email to supporters that said Biden "just
insulted tens of millions of Americans. Will Kamala apologize and disavow
Joe Biden's remarks?"

Trump had initially told his supporters to forgive Biden for the comment
but has since used it to attack Harris.


Harris "has spent all week comparing her political opponents to the most
evil mass murderers in history. Now, on top of everything, Joe Biden calls
our supporters 'garbage,'" Trump wrote on X and Truth Social.

"You can't lead America if you don't love the American People. Kamala
Harris and Joe Biden have shown they are both unfit to be President of the
United States," he said.

During a CNN town hall, Harris said she believes Trump is a "fascist." This
came after John Kelly, Trump's longest-serving chief of staff, said Trump
met the definition of the word and would govern like a dictator if allowed
to, according to an interview with The New York Times.


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 16:59:55
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


how could joe's comment be kamala's problem? that's like blaming pence for 1/6...you're just spreading manure again...


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 17:33:03
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


funny how public perception is. did you hear trump is getting the blame
for some crude jokes by a comedian he doesn’t even know? and you think
kamala isn’t going to get splashed by the other half of the biden/harris
administration calling trump supporters garbage? come on dude


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 19:45:04
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...

URL: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5172187/joe-biden-garbage-trump-puerto-rico


let's clear up what biden actually said...

Biden tonight in condemning the joke about Puerto Rico.

“The only garbage I see floating out there is his [supporters/supporter’s]–his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”

The WH says Biden was talking about the comedian—“supporter’s”

in other words, once again, you have nothing substantive...


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:06:58
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


dude this isn’t about me but about the fucking fact that every media
outlet in the country says biden called trump supporters garbage. the
white house is trying to minimize the damage and the man has dementia
and rarely knows what he is saying, but during election time these things
still make headlines


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 14:53:52
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


LOL Trump never calls anyone garbage...oh wait...


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 09:30:47
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


LOL well, if it's on the internet....
That's where you live, apparently. Try the real world
now and then.


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 10:10:30
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


the internet? the person who has spent years bitching at people about
sources is now acting like reading mainstream media on the internet is a
bad thing? too funny


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 10:34:13
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


hon, it's your continued insistance that the "media" is
all there is at the exclusion of anything else.

THAT is too funny.


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 10:39:46
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


i’ve never done any such thing, it’s just the damn news, hon. why do you
feel the need to say things that aren’t true?


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 10:50:08
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


Coming from you, that is funny too.
You're a comedian today lol


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 11:16:32
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


“You're a comedian today”

It’s Halloween.. he’s in costume..


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 23:30:26
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


what this is is the trump morons latching on to Joe to get the heat off
themselves for the vile things they say.

its just smoke and mirrors so you can do the OT thing..


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 09:31:30
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


exactly.
He's just pushing those dung balls as instructed.


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 02:10:02
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


“its just smoke and mirrors so you can do the OT thing..”

what’s the ot thing? me posting news articles to assist out of touch
liberals?


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 20:32:35
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


"in other words, once again, you have nothing substantive..."

He never had anything of substance.. in fact until he answers for the vile..
the horrendous bs he supports methinks he can take all his nitpicking and..

Well, you know, I don't want to offend Lee's sensibilities.


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 18:37:08
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


his campaign okayed the routine, so he can't plead innocent...you don't think rump thought that puerto rico joke was funny? biden's gaffe has already been sent under the bridge...and kamala di not approve that message...lol...


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 21:57:02
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


so someone on trump’s campaign scheduled an obnoxious comedian and
you think he should be held responsible but biden of the biden/harris
administration calls trump supporters garbage and you are surprised it
makes kamala look bad? get real dude


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 09:25:59
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


It wasn't just that one comedian and it hasn't been
just that one rally. The whole night was a harris name
calling deal from stupid to the antichrist, to
referring to her "pimps, then bleeding out to name
calling of democrats in general (the enemy within).

So, yeah..Old Biden gaffs and you're hoping it erases
all the massive hostile language from the right.

Um..no, sorry.
You want the focus on the one gaff, to try to distract
from the massive approved hostile language from the
right.

This, again, is a distraction tactic.

The Trump campaign is just trying to play defense by
attempting to refocus attention AWAY from their violent
rhetoric at MSG.


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:23:35
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...




"so someone on trump’s campaign scheduled an obnoxious
comedian"

Amongst other insult spewing speakers. The comedian
wasn't funny but the whole rally was more of the same
from the p.o.s. in chief and his minions.

"and you think he should be held responsible"
He started the whole name-calling thing years ago and
has only encouraged it in his followers to the point of
calling for violence. So that's a big yes.

"He started th but biden of the biden/harris
administration calls trump supporters garbage and you
are surprised"

That was covered in the previous post. Curious you
(and the fascist world) will excuse P.o.s. in chief
anything, even attempting to overthrow an election, and
constitutional process but not this! Says way more
about your own spin team than Biden.

"get real"

Get real? after years of insults personal and general
from the aforementioned p.o.s., this from Biden is
nothing.

Biden has a career of service.

That P.O.S. has a career of fraud and grift, treason
and oh, what's worse than treason?

"makes kamala look bad"

Only on Fox and "opinion" "news" liars and suckers.
Any thinking, observant person noted:
Kamala was not there
When informed did not agree
and noted she has a career of respect for voters.

Not me. I think Bidens visceral statement was correct
in spirit if not fact.





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Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:38:10
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


ignoring the petty insults you say biden’s garbage comment made
kamala look bad “Only on Fox and "opinion" "news" liars and suckers.”
which is naive considering even democrats in several articles were quoted
as saying biden’s gaffe was unfortunate and every media outlet i’ve see
is talking about it


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:54:24
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...




And we've had years of much worse behavior normalized
by the garbage in chief.

The event is only noted because the trump team got
nuttin' but their own insults and they are trying to
normalize themselves.

And of course, because it was out of character and
style and intent from Biden. Clearly he misspoke.

I don't think it will make a difference to anyone.




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Date: October 30, 2024 at 18:06:10
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Is Joe Biden's 'Garbage' Comment Kamala Harris' 'Deplorables'...


sorry, don't buy what your pushing uphill.
moving on from this topic to something actually
important...


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