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Date: October 30, 2024 at 11:33:27
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Mississippi gun death rate TWICE that of Haiti

URL: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/30/states-firearm-death-rates?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1



Some US states have firearm death rates comparable to
countries in conflict, report says

the Commonwealth Fund finds some US states have firearm
death rates comparable to countries in conflict, and
even states with the fewest firearms deaths are far
higher than peer developed democracies.

For instance, Mississippi’s rate of firearm-related
violence (28.5 per 100,000 people) was nearly double
that of Haiti (15.1 per 100,000) in 2021, when
mercenaries assassinated the country’s president,
unleashing a fresh round of gang warfare which pushed
the country into a state of civil war.

Rhode Island, which has the lowest firearm death rate
in the US (three per 100,000) is still 23 times higher
than the United Kingdom (0.13 per 100,000) and nearly
1.3 times higher than France (2.3 per 100,000).

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The US overall is in the 93rd percentile of all
countries and territories for overall firearm
mortality, at 13.5 deaths per 100,000 people, the
Commonwealth report found.

“No country we compare ourselves to has the rates and
absolute deaths like we do in the US,” said Evan Gumas,
a research associate at the Commonwealth Fund in
international health policy and practice who helped
author the report. “It comes up anytime there’s a
shooting that makes the news, when it should be
something we’re paying attention to.”

In another example, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and
New Mexico all have higher firearm mortality rates than
Mexico, where decades of violence between state forces
and rival drug cartels has caused hundreds of thousands
of deaths and left more than 115,000 people missing.

Notably, firearm-related death and injury is not
synonymous with an increase in crime. Violent crime
fell 15% from 2023 to 2024, according to the FBI. More
than half of all firearm-related deaths (56.1%) in 2022
were from suicide, according to a report from the US
surgeon general.

Vivek Murthy, the US surgeon general, declared firearm
violence “a public health crisis in America” in a June
report, citing statistics that firearms injuries in the
US far surpassed peer wealthy nations and were growing
quickly, especially among children and adolescents.

Firearms became the leading cause of death for American
children aged one to 17 in 2020, surpassing car
accidents and all other causes of illness and injury,
such as drowning or suffocation. For comparison, the
rate of firearm deaths among American children is 72
times higher in the US than in the UK (36.4 deaths per
million versus 0.5 deaths per million).

“I went to public school in the wake of Sandy Hook,”
said Gumas, referencing the Connecticut massacre in
which a gunman killed six adults and 20 first-grade
children. “School shooting drills were a very big part
of our every day. That’s not normal.”



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Date: October 30, 2024 at 12:19:54
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mississippi gun death rate TWICE that of Haiti


"For instance, Mississippi’s rate of firearm-related
violence (28.5 per 100,000 people) was nearly double
that of Haiti (15.1 per 100,000) in 2021, when
mercenaries assassinated the country’s president,
unleashing a fresh round of gang warfare which pushed
the country into a state of civil war..."

Wow.
Just wow. That tells you something right there.


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443511


Date: October 30, 2024 at 12:35:00
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mississippi gun death rate TWICE that of Haiti


“Just wow. That tells you something right there.”

Yep.. Americans are sick.

Imagine wanting to own guns.. to fondle them.. to desire to use them to
kill living things. Imagine a country full of people that desire.. as much as
others desire sex.. to fondle their guns.. to use them to kill other human
beings.

The second amendment, the way it is interpreted, is bullshit. It clearly
states that it is for the purpose of maintaining a well regulated militia. We
have them, they are called the National Guard. As such the second
amendment should be repealed. Period.

The second amendment of the constitution does not give people the
right to own guns without restrictions. Killers say otherwise.. but fuck,
they are killers. Why are we listening to them?

Americans that fondle guns are the sickest people on Earth. They love
guns, they love fantasies about killing people. They dream of killing..
their games are games of killing people. They are vile.. extremely ill,
animals.. and really should be considered a threat to life itself. And dealt
with according.


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 16:17:00
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mississippi gun death rate TWICE that of Haiti




It does appear to be an obsession, for sure. So many
people who have guns have a dozen or more, way beyond
what's necessary for hunting or sport.

Weird.




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Date: October 30, 2024 at 18:41:33
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mississippi gun death rate TWICE that of Haiti


it's a disease. An uniquely American malady. It's horrible, and the folks so
afflicted are very dangerous people. Literally, where else is there anywhere
near the obsession with guns on the planet?

Americans do not treasure life. They say they do but their actions tell an
entirely different story. Guns should be outlawed. If not all guns, anything
more than a pea shooter should be rounded up and melted down..

And.. imo of course.. anyone caught with a gun during the commission of a
crime should do life in prison. We should do everything in our power to get
rid of guns.

As I said.. there is no.. none.. zip constitutional protection for the ownership
of guns. The entire second amendment is predicated on the need for a
militia. Read it, it is as clear as need be..

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

But no, assholes that want to fondle machines intended to kill people just
can't read the entire first half of the sentence. WTF does..

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

mean? When it was written we did not have a national guard. Now we do.
There is no need for people to own guns. Period.


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