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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
URL: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
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6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan The former president repeated his debunked claims of election fraud and speculated that there could be life on Mars in an interview aimed at young male voters. By Michael GoldTim Balk and Simon J. Levien Oct. 26, 2024, 1:22 a.m. ET Former President Donald J. Trump taped a nearly three-hour episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience” on Friday. He courted the show’s young male audience by floating the idea of eliminating the income tax, talking about mixed martial arts fighters, praising the military skills of Gen. Robert E. Lee and speculating that there was “no reason not to think” there could be life on Mars and other planets. Much of the discussion centered on refrains familiar from Mr. Trump’s rambling speeches on the campaign trail, but the podcast offered Mr. Trump an opportunity to reach an audience his campaign covets. Mr. Rogan has 14.5 million followers on Spotify and 17.6 million on YouTube, many of them the young, male, low-propensity voters that the Trump campaign is hoping to draw to the polls. At one point Mr. Rogan tried to lead Mr. Trump, who has described his meandering, digression-laden speaking style as “the weave,” back to the point. “Your weave is getting wide,” Mr. Rogan said. “You’re getting wide with this weave.” Here are six takeaways from the podcast. Trump saw the podcast as well worth a detour. That Mr. Trump opted to step off the campaign trail and spend hours in Mr. Rogan’s studio in Austin — a detour that delayed the start of his remarks at a rally on Friday evening in Michigan by several hours — was a mark of Mr. Rogan’s reach and the importance of the audience he draws. Just two years ago, Mr. Rogan said he had declined to have Mr. Trump on his show, calling the former president “an existential threat to democracy.” But in their interview, Mr. Rogan was a receptive if occasionally challenging interlocutor. Mr. Rogan acknowledged that he had rethought his position on interviewing Mr. Trump after he survived an assassination attempt in July at a rally in Pennsylvania. “Once they shot you, I was like, ‘He’s got to come in here,’” Mr. Rogan said. “It’s all about timing.” Mr. Rogan invited Mr. Trump to talk about his debunked claims of widespread election fraud. “I want to talk about 2020 because you said over and over again that you were robbed in 2020,” Mr. Rogan said, offering Mr. Trump a platform to repeat his debunked claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election and the lie that he won that year. “How do you think you were robbed? Everybody always cuts you off.” Mr. Trump lamented that “the judges didn’t have what it took to turn over an election” and repeated a few false claims, suggested that mail-in ballots were not secure and said that Democrats had “used Covid to cheat” in 2020. Mr. Rogan seemed to back Mr. Trump’s questioning of election processes, at one point likening those who raised concerns over elections to those who questioned coronavirus vaccines. “You get labeled an election denier,” Mr. Rogan said. “It’s like being labeled an anti-vaxxer if you question some of the health consequences that people have from the Covid-19 shots.” In 2022 Mr. Rogan was criticized for spreading what was widely seen as misinformation about the coronavirus; his stance led Neil Young and Joni Mitchell to remove their music from Spotify to protest the platform’s support of the podcaster. Trump floated eliminating the income tax. Mr. Trump voiced casual support for the idea of eliminating the federal income tax, suggesting a return to economic policies that existed before the early 20th century. “Did you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and replacing it with tariffs?” Mr. Rogan asked Mr. Trump, who had mentioned the notion on Monday in a Fox News segment. “Were we serious about that?” “Yeah, sure,” Mr. Trump said. “But why not?” He again offered praise for William McKinley, the 25th president, a Republican whose views on tariffs Mr. Trump frequently commends. Even before Mr. Trump began talking about eliminating the income tax, an analysis by the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated that his other economic proposals could add as much as $15 trillion to the nation’s debt over 10 years. Is there life on Mars? Mr. Rogan pressed Mr. Trump for government secrets on whether there is life beyond Earth. The former president initially said he had “never been a believer” in extraterrestrial life. But then he seemed to pivot, recalling that he had interviewed “solid” jet pilots who claimed to have seen “very strange” things in the sky. “There’s no reason not to think that Mars and all these planets don’t have life,” Mr. Trump said. Mr. Rogan corrected him. “Well, Mars — we’ve had probes there, and rovers, and I don’t think there’s any life there,” Mr. Rogan said. (Mars is the most widely explored planet in the solar system other than Earth.) “Maybe it’s life that we don’t know about,” replied Mr. Trump, who has vowed in stump speeches to get an American astronaut to Mars. Scientists have not found life on Mars, though they are on the hunt for evidence of fossilized organisms. Trump does not trust polls — or pollsters. Mr. Trump told Mr. Rogan he had little regard for political polls, explaining that he believed there was “probably a lot of fraud” in them, even as he at times positively cited polls that showed him doing well with voters. “You know how polls are done?” Mr. Trump asked. “Oh, I’m going to get myself in trouble. So I really don’t believe too much in them.” Polls have consistently shown a tight race between Mr. Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. Polls were notably inaccurate during the last two presidential elections, and many pollsters have taken steps to try to improve their accuracy. But Mr. Trump suggested, without evidence, that they were not just mistaken but might be fraudulent. “I don’t think they interview in many cases,” he said. Lots of praise, but a challenge on the environment. Mr. Rogan was a friendly interviewer, often praising Mr. Trump. He rarely interrupted the former president, and they seemed to bond over their shared love of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, a mixed martial arts league whose matches Mr. Trump attends. And Mr. Rogan, a standup comedian, praised Mr. Trump for “comedic instincts” on the trail. But their worldviews were not always a neat fit. At one point, Mr. Rogan asked Mr. Trump to elaborate on why he thought people opposed increasing oil and gas production or fracking, “outside of the environmental concerns, which are legitimate, of course.” Mr. Trump started to object to that point, but Mr. Rogan continued on with his question. And he turned stern as he pressed Mr. Trump over his claim that environmental regulations were used only to enrich consultants who stymie development. “They use it as a weapon,” Mr. Trump said. Mr. Rogan pushed back with a series of questions. “But there are legitimate concerns about environmental impact, correct?” he asked, citing environmental disasters. “You want to mitigate that as much as possible.” “Sure,” Mr. Trump conceded. But he shifted to his standard insistence that he was focused on clean water and clean air before moving to a discussion about China and complaints about California. Mr. Trump has made a sometimes uneasy alliance with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the environmental activist and former presidential candidate, who has endorsed him. Mr. Kennedy, whom Mr. Rogan favors, has advanced a number of environmental proposals that clash with some of Mr. Trump’s deregulation pledges and plans to increase fracking. Michael Gold is a political correspondent for The Times covering the campaigns of Donald J. Trump and other candidates in the 2024 presidential elections. More about Michael Gold Simon J. Levien is a Times political reporter covering the 2024 elections and a member of the 2024-25 Times Fellowship class, a program for journalists early in their careers. More about Simon J. Levien |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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This exchange, somehow, really happened: Trump goes on this tangent about the Lincoln bedroom about 8 minutes into the Joe Rogan interview, and at one point Rogan has to cut in to say he has no idea who Trump is talking about (after comparing Abe Lincoln and Robert E Lee to prize fighters). |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
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did you see the interview? 27 million people have on youtube have and millions more on spotify. trump can talk for hours while kamala struggles through simple interviews |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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I'm not wasting 3 hrs of my life listening to grandpa ramble again. |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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but what he says is garbage, so what difference does it make. I'm sure he babbles in his sleep, too. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
| did you listen to him? or just find someone picking out quotes? |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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so you're impressed by the infrequent sane, non-bigoted public statements Trump manages to utter every now and then? But you completely ignore all of the dangerous, hateful insane crap that flies from his mouth on a regular basis. You fit right in here, OT, sorry to say. |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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"You fit right in here, OT, sorry to say." LOLOLOL!!! Thanks akira...my laughtrack needed some filling out... ;) |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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didn’t say that, but listening to him speak for almost 3 hours and listening to kamala stumble through interviews there is a marked difference. very different from select excepts such as what you posted |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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Oh my God...you're really saying what's written there, aren't you, old timer... It's not my imagination...I've read it a few times... Okay. I'm going to work on spinning this into laughtrack, but it's going to take some time and relaxation breathing....no worries... ;) |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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seen clips. Yeah, garbage. He thinks he's great, though lol. Think at one point Rogan told him, "I think your weave's getting a little wide there.." lol |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Onlookers ridicule DJT as 'crowd empties out' as he speaks
URL: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-losing-house-empty-rally/
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(Full title: 'You're losin' the house!' Onlookers ridicule Trump as 'crowd empties out' while he speaks) What's that you say, Old Timer? "Trump can talk for hours"? Maybe...if you have a *very, very loose definition* for "talking"...lol...but is he saying anything of relevance, let alone anything befitting a presidential candidate, amongst all his incoherent rambling? Um...newsflash: No, he's not... And, no, Kamala certainly does not "struggle through simple interviews"...that's just a flat-out lie from you -- who calls people liars so freely... Proof it's a lie can be easily had by watching any of her interviews...take your pick...lol... *** Critics ridiculed Donald Trump on Saturday after he gave a speech in Pennsylvania where, before he was finished speaking, many of his own fans had already funneled out. Trump spoke in State College, PA, where he at one point lashed out at sound engineers after saying the sound on a video he played was "lousy." Before he was done talking, people started leaving, resulting in a crowd that was seen as sparse by onlookers. Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign posted a video of the development, saying, "Crowd empties out of half-empty arena as Trump speaks in Pennsylvania." Popular liberal influencer @JoJoFromJerz replied to that video with a quote from Trump's speech. "I can’t believe 'going back to 1798' isn’t keeping their attention," she said Saturday, later adding, "He says no one leaves his stupid f------ rallies because he knows how many people leave his stupid f------ rallies." Mrs. Betty Bowers, a well-known parody account, wrote, "He sounds like someone at the end of a bar at closing time, telling his troubles to his Manhattan and a bowl of peanuts." In a separate thread on social media, Mrs. Betty Bowers wrote, "Sing out, Louise! You're losin' the house!" Watch the video below or click the link. |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Onlookers ridicule DJT as 'crowd empties out' as he speaks
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OT's just trying real hard to push that dung ball up the hill again. |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: This exchange, somehow, really happened:
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Just one example of hundreds that...have, yes, really happened... I'm starting to grow real affection for these instances when I read about them, although there's so many now, it's hard to keep up...knowing that someone, somewhere must be reading these inanities and, in that sacred moment, *quietly deciding not to vote for him*...whether they tell anyone or not... |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
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FACT FOCUS: Trump repeated election lies in his interview with Joe Rogan. Here are the facts By NICHOLAS RICCARDI, Associated Press Updated Oct 26, 2024 12:07 p.m. In his three-hour interview with podcaster Joe Rogan, Donald Trump dug in on his false claims about voting, election fraud and his loss in the 2020 presidential election. Rogan helped encourage some of these claims. The interview, released late Friday, came on the same day that the former president, on his social media network, re-posted threats to prosecute lawyers, voters and election officials he deems to have “cheated” in the 2024 election. Here's a look at some of the claims by the Republican nominee for president and the truth. Trump did lose the 2020 election WHAT TRUMP SAID: “I won by like — they say I lost by like — I didn’t lose.” THE FACTS: Trump did lose in 2020 to Democrat Joe Biden. Trump's claims that fraud cost him the race were investigated repeatedly. Trump's own attorney general said there were no signs of significant fraud. The Republican-run state Senate in Michigan, one of the swing states where Trump claimed fraud occurred, came to the same conclusion after a lengthy investigation. An investigation by the nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau in Wisconsin, ordered by the state's GOP-controlled Legislature in another state Trump claimed to have been defrauded from winning, also found no substantial fraud. Rogan chortled when Trump was arguing, correctly, that his loss was close. Trump lost the election narrowly in six swing states. If about 81,000 votes had flipped, Trump could have won Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin and gotten enough support in the Electoral College to remain president. Trump misstated that margin as 22,000 votes. Judges ruled against Trump on the merits repeatedly WHAT TRUMP SAID: “What happened is judges don’t want to touch it. They would say, ‘you don’t have standing.’ They didn’t rule on the merits.” THE FACTS: That’s not true. Trump and his supporters lost more than 50 lawsuits trying to overturn the election. A group of Republican-affiliated election lawyers and legal scholars reviewed all 64 of the Trump lawsuits challenging the 2020 election and found only 20 of them were dismissed by judges before a hearing on the merits. In 30 cases, the rulings against Trump came after hearings on the merits. In the remaining 14 cases, the report for Stanford University's Hoover Institution found, Trump and his allies dropped their lawsuits before they even got to the merits phase. “In many cases, after making extravagant claims of wrongdoing, Trump’s legal representatives showed up in court or state proceedings empty-handed, and then returned to their rallies and media campaigns to repeat the same unsupported claims,” the report states. Almost every state already uses paper ballots WHAT TRUMP SAID: “We should go to paper ballots.” THE FACTS: Trump and Rogan both argued that voting machines are unreliable and that the United States should rely on paper ballots. Trump even cited his billionaire tech mogul supporter Elon Musk's enthusiasm for such a change. Almost all of the country already made that switch, however. In 2020, more than 90% of the election jurisdictions in the U.S. used paper ballots, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. The next year, the federal Election Assistance Commission changed its guidelines to recommend every jurisdiction use paper. The only state not to use a voting system with paper ballots or a paper trail of any sort is Republican-run Louisiana. Republicans and Democrats encouraged mail voting during the pandemic WHAT TRUMP SAID: “They used COVID to cheat.” THE FACTS: Trump's central argument is that a grand Democratic conspiracy changed voting procedures during the coronavirus pandemic to make mail voting more popular and that the conspirators then rigged the election against him through those mail votes. That's not what happened. When the pandemic first hit during the 2020 presidential primary in March, Republican and Democratic election officials quickly switched to encourage mail voting to avoid crowded polls. This was relatively uncontroversial until Trump turned against it, claiming it would lay the seeds for potential fraud. In doing so, Trump was returning to his usual playbook, claiming that any election he doesn't win is fraudulent. He made that claim about the first contest he lost, Iowa's 2016 Republican caucus. He even claimed he lost the popular vote in 2016 because of voting by illegal immigrants, though a presidential commission he empaneled to find evidence of it disbanded without finding any proof. The 2020 election was free of significant fraud THE FACTS: Isolated cases of voters fraud have long occurred, but in modern times have not reached the levels needed to sway a national election. An Associated Press review found fewer than 475 cases in all six battleground states that Trump lost by more than a combined 300,000 votes — far too little to change the outcome. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
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here is the video. 16 million youtube views in less than 24 hours, it was also on spotify |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
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another demented interview. Meanwhile, his rally started 3 hours wait and his rally-goers had to stand in the cold for 3 hours because he decided to do this interview and just left them hanging. ****************** Trump leaves Michigan rallygoers waiting in the cold for hours to tape Joe Rogan podcast By JILL COLVIN, JONATHAN J. COOPER and WILL WEISSERT Updated 5:14 AM PDT, October 26, 2024 Share TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) — Many of Donald Trump’s supporters left a Michigan rally before he arrived after the former president kept them waiting for three hours to tape a popular podcast interview. Those who remained at the outdoor rally on an airport tarmac huddled in the cold Friday night as they waited for the former president to touch down in the battleground state. Trump apologized to the crowd for the delay, which he blamed on an interview with Joe Rogan, the nation’s most listened-to podcaster and an influential voice with younger male voters Trump is aggressively courting. The interview, taped in Austin, Texas, was released Friday night and ran a whopping three hours, with Trump telling many familiar stories from his rallies and other interviews but also engaging with Rogan on topics like the existence of UFOs. Democrat Kamala Harris was also in Texas Friday for an appearance with superstar Beyoncé in Houston at an event highlighting the conservative state’s abortion ban, which was enacted after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Three of the justices who voted to overturn Roe were nominated by Trump. Minutes before Trump’s Michigan rally was scheduled to begin at 7:30 p.m. Eastern, his spokesman posted on the social media platform X that Trump was just leaving Texas, more than two hours away by air. Trump recorded a video from his plane urging his supporters to stay, noting it was Friday night and promising, “We’re going to have a good time tonight.” Trump eventually took the stage at the Traverse City airport, where temperatures dipped to about 50 degrees Fahrenheit (10 degrees Celsius). The crowd erupted into cheers as video screens showed Trump’s plane arriving and then him walking off his plane and down the steps. “I am so sorry,” he said. “We got so tied up, and I figured you wouldn’t mind too much because we’re trying to win.” Attendees who hadn’t left bundled up, some covered by blankets, as they waited for him to land. The crowd sounded and looked disengaged as North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and former Republican gubernatorial candidate Tudor Dixon tried to kill time onstage. Hats were thrown to attendees. Among those who stuck around at Trump’s rally were John and Cheryl Sowash, who live in Traverse City, and arrived at the airport at 4 p.m. “Things happen,” said John. “He spoke to a lot more people talking to Joe Rogan than he did here.” Indeed, Cheryl said she was worried about Trump, who had missed speaking to a larger crowd. “He’s gonna be disappointed, because there were twice as many people here. He missed it,” she said. (rest of article at link..about his Rogan interview which was already posted, and his michigan rally--where medical incidents, again, interrupted it and, again, Trump played "Ave Maria"). "..Trump’s rally was also interrupted twice by audience members needing medical attention. After the second incident, Trump asked organizers to play the song Ave Maria to fill the time. That was reminiscent of a recent Trump rally in Pennsylvania when medical attention being required in the audience caused Trump to sway to that and other songs for nearly 40 minutes..." |
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From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
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I hope they get the message. ....... In response to Trump's late start, Michigan Democratic Coordinated Campaign Rapid Response Director Shafeeqa Kolia criticized the former president. “Michiganders are used to Donald Trump not showing up for them, but tonight Trump took it to a new level – finding a new way to disrespect even his own supporters," she said. "Tonight is a reminder that Donald Trump only cares about himself, even if that means leaving thousands of people out in the cold for hours on end. If Michiganders are looking for a leader who cares about them then Vice President Harris is the right choice for them.” |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan
| as i figured, a complete waste of everyone's time... |
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