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Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:02:44
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first time in

URL: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first time in decades


Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first time in
decades

BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO - 10/25/24 12:25 PM ET

The Washington Post will not be endorsing any candidate for president
this year, the newspaper’s publisher announced Friday.

In a note to readers, Post publisher William Lewis said the outlet would
not back a candidate for president in 2024 or “in any future presidential
election.”

It is the first time the Post will not be making an endorsement in a
presidential race in 36 years.

“We recognize that this will be read in a range of ways, including as a tacit
endorsement of one candidate, or as a condemnation of another, or as an
abdication of responsibility,” Lewis wrote. “That is inevitable. We don’t
see it that way. We see it as consistent with the values The Post has
always stood for.”

He added that the Post’s job “is to provide through the newsroom
nonpartisan news for all Americans, and thought-provoking, reported
views from our opinion team to help our readers make up their own
minds.”

“Most of all, our job as the newspaper of the capital city of the most
important country in the world is to be independent,” Lewis concluded.
“And that is what we are and will be.”

The Post’s decision not to endorse either Vice President Harris or former
President Trump comes after a similar move at the Los Angeles Times,
where owner Patrick Soon-Shiong opted not to endorse either candidate.
That decision has led to a number of top editors at the LA Times resigning
from the paper in protest.

The Post has endorsed other candidates this cycle, including Democrat
Angela Alsobrooks in her Maryland Senate race against former Gov. Larry
Hogan (R). In 2020, it backed now-President Biden over Trump, and in
2016, it endorsed Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

The Post’s decision was immediately criticized by famed former top Post
editor Marty Baron, who called it “disturbing spinelessness at an
institution famed for courage” in a post on the social platform X.

“This is cowardice, with democracy as its casualty,” Baron wrote.
The paper is owned by Jeff Bezos, one of the richest people in the world,
who hired Lewis this year to replace longtime publisher Fred Ryan.

Lewis’s hiring has sparked internal backlash at the Post in connection with
an alleged hacking scandal during his time working for conservative
tabloids in Great Britain.


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443174


Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:35:05
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: decision was made by owner, Jeff Bezos

URL: https://x.com/FenitN


Fenit Nirappil, Washington Post:

Our news side continues to report fearlessly. Even when it’s about our own
bosses.


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443186


Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:18:24
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: decision was made by owner, Jeff Bezos


bezos and the post are getting considerable backlash on this...and a lot of canceled subscriptions from what i hear...


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443191


Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:36:51
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: decision was made by owner, Jeff Bezos


They would get backlash no matter what. If endorsing
Trump, there would be backlash. If endorsing Harris,
maga backlash (as well as the threat of being on the
enemy list of Trump should he win, and be death
threats, legal suits and even shut down if Trump
carries out those threats).

Frankly, Bezos is probably already on Trump's enemy
list. I think he should have shown a spine.

You know, if you look at history..it tells us
something. One of the first things Hitler did after he
came to power..besides eleminate all non-followers in
government, was a state take over of business. Many of
the german mogles lost their bets, lost control of
their businesses and finances.

Now, Russians reward their "oligarchs" for loyalty..but
again, there is a price. They must do as the state
orders when asked for "favors". They don't truly
control their businesses, either..but at least are
allowed to be puppet owners of them as long as they
don't piss off Putin, and Putin gets his piece.

which totalitarian model would Trump use?

In my opinion, corporations are playing with big fire
if they back trump. They are likely to lose control
either way.

Elon may benefit, but not if he balks later at "favors"
asked that he does not agree with. Maybe Elon will
foster his own coup at that time? Maybe he'll cowtow?

Maybe he'll have all his businesses confiscated and
arrested for treason (with Trump as the beneficiary)?

These corps are insane for throwing in with Trump is
history is any guide. They probably studied finacial
theory more than history, and it may be to their
detriment (and all of ours).


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443138


Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:13:23
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...

URL: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4953811-marty-baron-post-endorsement-cowardice/


billionaires afraid to come out against lardass...

Marty Baron on Post endorsement choice: ‘This is cowardice’
by Ashleigh Fields - 10/25/24 2:39 PM ET

Marty Baron, the former executive editor for The Washington Post, said it is “cowardice” for the publication not to endorse a presidential candidate in this year’s election.

“This is cowardice, with democracy as its casualty,” Baron wrote in a post on the social platform X.

In a stark contrast to 36 years of tradition, the Post said it will not back presidential candidates this year or at any time in the future.

“@realdonaldtrump will see this as an invitation to further intimidate owner @jeffbezos (and others). Disturbing spinelessness at an institution famed for courage,” Baron fumed.

Post reporters said an editorial was drafted in support of Vice President Harris but was never approved for release. Ultimately, the decision not to endorse a candidate was made by Bezos, who acquired the outlet in 2013 and has restructured the culture and overall landscape, causing concern among employees with editor layoffs and shuffled appointments.

However, the paper’s political coverage moved forward rampantly, pushing out endorsements and oppositions accordingly. In 2016, the editorial board warned against former President Trump’s White House bid, labeling him as a “unique and present danger.”

Eight years later, their choice to stay silent amid the former president’s third presidential campaign against Vice President Harris is sounding alarms from former employees and current journalists alike.

“The message from our chief executive, Will Lewis — not from the Editorial Board itself — makes us concerned that management interfered with the work of our members in Editorial,” the Washington Post Guild said in the statement on X.

The group noted a sharp decline in subscriptions due to the lack of endorsement days before the November election.

“We are already seeing cancellations from once loyal readers,” the Guild said. “This decision undercuts the work of our members at a time when we should be building our readers’ trust, not losing it.”


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443142


Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:21:35
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...


Yep Bezos can't take the chance Trump might not stroke his rocket


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443179


Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:47:14
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...


LOL interesting way to put it, but okay.


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443206


Date: October 25, 2024 at 17:23:40
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...


Jeff is angling to be competitive with Elon.. whoever wins the golden prize..
the contract to supply martian outposts with oxygen.. becomes a de facto
god with power over all other living things..

If Jeff disses the Don and the Don wins the election, Jeff might as well give
away Amazon.. it's all for naught in the race to control space.

ie that phallic rocket of his won't be much more than a merry-go-round
without uncle's help.. and omg if he has to make up for the gains Elon is
gathering in Trump..


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443185


Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:18:15
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...




I think he's talking about (please, God, no) President
Trusk.




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443187


Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:19:22
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...


also known as feelon?


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443220


Date: October 25, 2024 at 20:20:27
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Washington Post not endorsing presidential candidate for first...




Very good!

Has a ring to it.


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443108


Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:40:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LA Times Owner Denies Vetoing Presidential Endorsement: ‘The Editorial

URL: https://www.thewrap.com/la-times-owner-patrick-soon-shiong-denies-harris-veto/


LA Times Owner Denies Vetoing Presidential Endorsement: ‘The Editorial Board
Chose to Stay Silent’

Patrick Soon-Shiong responds as editorial page editor Mariel Garza resigned
after the decision

October 23, 2024

Los Angeles Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong denied vetoing the editorial
board’s endorsement of Kamala Harris for president, saying that the board
“chose to remain silent and I accepted their decision.”

Editorial page editor Mariel Garza resigned on Wednesday over the
newspaper’s lack of an endorsement, saying, “The non-endorsement
undermines the integrity of the editorial board and every single endorsement
we make.” She said in her resignation letter obtained by TheWrap that Soon-
Shiong vetoed the editorial board’s decision to endorse Harris, to which the
paper’s owner responded directly Wednesday evening.

“So many comments about the L.A. Times editorial board not providing a
presidential endorsement this year. Let me clarify how this decision came
about,” he wrote on X, viewable in full below. “The editorial board was provided
the opportunity to draft a factual analysis of all the positive and negative
policies by each candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how
these policies affected the nation.”

“In addition, the board was asked to provide their understanding of the policies
and plans enunciated by the candidates during this campaign and its potential
effect on the nation in the next four years,” Soon-Shiong continued. “In this way,
with this clear and non-partisan information side-by-side, our readers could
decide who would be worthy of being president for the next four years.”

He concluded, “Instead of adopting this path as suggested, the editorial board
chose to remain silent and I accepted their decision. Please vote.”

In turn, Garza responded to TheWrap exclusively, saying, “We pitched an
endorsement and were not allowed to write one.”

Meanwhile, Elon Musk responded to Soon-Shiong’s Twitter statement, simply,
“Makes sense.”

Earlier on Wednesday, Garza submitted her resignation to executive editor Terry
Tang, writing in part: “The non-endorsement undermines the integrity of the
editorial board and every single endorsement we make, down to school board
races. People will justifiably wonder if each endorsement was a decision made
by a group of journalists after extensive research and discussion, or through
decree by the owner.

“In these dangerous times, staying silent isn’t just indifference, it is complicity,”
she continued. “I’m standing up by stepping down from the editorial board.
Please accept this as my formal resignation, effective immediately.”

In addition to the public outcry over the decision, internal Slack conversations
viewed by TheWrap echoed the sentiment that the paper had “abandoned that
responsibility” of endorsing a candidate, as one L.A. Times newsroom journalist
put it.

Sharon Waxman contributed to this reporting.


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443211


Date: October 25, 2024 at 18:12:49
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Paper Is Refusing to “Endorse a Candidate Overseeing a War on Children

URL: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/la-times-presidential-endorsement-decision-owners-daughter-weighs-in-1236045376/


If true, I support that decision 100% but the reason should have been
publicized by the editorial board or owner, imo

Daughter of Los Angeles Times’ Owner Says Paper Is Refusing to “Endorse a
Candidate Overseeing a War on Children”
Patrick Soon-Shiong's outspoken daughter, Nika, posted on X on Friday that
"genocide is a line in the sand."


BY KATIE KILKENNY
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OCTOBER 25, 2024
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The daughter of Los Angeles Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong is weighing in
on the controversy that has erupted around the paper’s decision not to endorse
a presidential candidate in 2024, saying that “for me, genocide is a line in the
sand.”

In a thread of social media posts on Thursday, Nika Soon-Shiong attributed the
decision to an opposition to Democratic candidate Kamala Harris’ position on
the war on Gaza. She wrote that her father, a South African transplant surgeon,
had worked as an emergency surgeon at Baragwanath Hospital in Soweto
during apartheid. “For my family, Apartheid is not a vague concept.” Maintaining
that the decision to endorse was one made by the Los Angeles Times editorial
board, Nika added, “This is not a vote for Donald Trump. This is a refusal to
ENDORSE a candidate that is overseeing a war on children.”


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She continued, “I’m proud of the LA Times’ decision just as I am certain there is
no such thing as children of darkness. There is no such thing as human
animals.”

The posts arrive as the Times faces an internal and external firestorm over its
decision not to endorse a candidate in the 2024 election. Three editorial board
members have resigned since the decision was made public, with one, Mariel
Garza, saying in an interview with the Columbia Journalism Review that owner
Soon-Shiong had made his wish not to endorse clear through a message
conveyed by Times executive editor Terry Tang. Previously, Garza been drafting
an outline of an editorial that would announce an endorsement of Harris, she
said.

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Semafor has additionally reported that Soon-Shiong blocked the Times
editorial board from endorsing a candidate even though it was preparing to.

While some outlets have suggested that Soon-Shiong may have pushed for a
nonendorsement in order to curry favor with former President Donald Trump in
the event he is re-elected, two well-placed sources at the Times suggest that
the real reason is antipathy toward Harris for her and the Biden administration’s
stance on Israel. “They’ve both been very critical of the administration and its
support for Israel, and Nika has been especially vociferous about that,” says
one source. “She has regularly accused Israel of genocide and condemned the
administration for their support. Just look at her Twitter feed — she has a
Palestinian flag in her bio. Patrick is less vocal, but he agrees with her. I think
there’s no question that their refusal to endorse Kamala stems from that.”


The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to the Los Angeles Times for
comment.

In July, a Times photo caption inserted in a story about a Los Angeles City
Council motion to fund additional security for synagogues and Jewish places of
worship sparked outrage from the Jewish community and calls to boycott the
paper.

The Soon-Shiong family has faced claims in the past that they have attempted
to intervene in the paper’s coverage. After executive editor Kevin Merida exited
in January, THR reported that one recent conflict between Merida and the
Soon-Shiong family occurred when more than three dozen Times reporters
“signed a Nov. 9 statement severely critical of Israel’s invasion of Gaza but
barely mentioning the Oct. 7 terrorist attack on Israel launched from the
Hamas-controlled territory.” Under pressure from senior editors, Merida
restricted those who signed the statement from covering the war in Gaza for 90
days.

Nika has also faced reports that she has influenced the paper’s editorial work
despite not having an official role at the Times. THR has reported that during
the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, Nika fought with Times leadership over
the use of the term “looting” and criticized Times staff writers on Twitter.
Politico has reported that in 2020, Nika appeared in staff meetings that tackled
the issue of where the paper had gone wrong in covering race issues and that
when she became a West Hollywood public safety commissioner, she pitched
stories about the commission and “complained about headlines.”


At the time, Soon-Shiong told Politico that she served as an adviser to the
paper but said she did not control editorial decisions or have a “formal role.”


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443109


Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:45:56
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No POTUS ...

URL: https://truthout.org/articles/la-times-editor-quits-in-protest-over-owners-demands-for-no-potus-endorsement/


LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No POTUS
Endorsement

“In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up,” said former editorial
editor Mariel Garza.

By Chris Walker , TRUTHOUT
Published October 24, 2024

In response to the owner of the Los Angeles Times decreeing that the paper
would not be endorsing a candidate in this year’s presidential race, Mariel
Garza, the editor of editorials for the Times, has resigned from her position.

Health tech billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong, who bought the Times in 2018, told
staff at the paper on October 11 that, while the editorial board could issue
endorsements in lower ballot races, it could not endorse either Democratic
candidate Kamala Harris or Republican candidate Donald Trump in the
presidential race,
marking the first time the paper hasn’t made a
presidential endorsement since 2004.

The paper has backed Democratic candidates in every presidential election
since that time.

In response to that order, Mariel Garza, who oversees the editorial board and
the opinion section for the paper, resigned from her role in protest.

“I want to make it clear that I am not okay with us being silent. In dangerous
times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up,” Garza said
in a phone conversation with Sewell Chan of the Columbia Journalism Review.

Within her resignation letter, Garza said that the paper was planning to endorse
Harris and that it was difficult to justify not releasing an endorsement when the
paper’s editorial board had made the case against a second Trump term in
previous commentaries.

“How could we spend eight years railing against Trump and the danger his
leadership poses to the country and then fail to endorse the perfectly decent
Democrat challenger — who we previously endorsed for the U.S. Senate?”
Garza wondered.

She added:

The non-endorsement undermines the integrity of the editorial board and every
single endorsement we make, down to school board races. People will
justifiably wonder if each endorsement was a decision made by a group of
journalists after extensive research and discussion, or through decree by the
owner.

In her conversation with Chan, Garza explained that it was important for the
paper to outline its stance, even if readers could presume their position.

“This is a point in time where you speak your conscience no matter what,”
Garza said.

After Garza’s resignation, Soon-Shiong posted on social media that he had
invited the board to “draft a factual analysis of all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE
policies by EACH candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how
these policies affected the nation.” He claimed that he ultimately accepted the
board’s decision not to do so.

Garza rejected that notion, pointing out: “What he outlines in that tweet is not
an endorsement, or even an editorial.”

Garza’s fears about the non-endorsement undermining the Times’s previous
statements on Trump came to fruition later this week, when the Trump
campaign seized on the paper’s refusal to issue a statement to falsely suggest
they had qualms endorsing Harris.

“In Kamala’s own home state, the Los Angeles Times — the state’s largest
newspaper — has declined to endorse the Harris-Walz ticket, despite
endorsing the Democrat nominees in every election for decades,” the campaign
bragged, purporting that “even her fellow Californians know she’s not up for the
job.”

(In reality, polling data shows that Harris is leading Trump in the state by a huge
margin — an aggregate of polls compiled by FiveThirtyEight, for example,
shows her ahead of him by nearly 24 points.)

Soon-Shiong’s demand that the Times refrain from issuing a presidential
endorsement has prompted many observers to question whether he hopes to
capitalize on either candidate’s win. Indeed, Soon-Shiong has worked with the
Biden administration on its cancer initiative and discussed the future of health
care with Trump when he won the election in 2016. Soon-Shiong’s friendship
with fellow billionaire (and Trump megadonor) Elon Musk has also called his
motives into question.

“He thinks that Trump is going to win, and he doesn’t need to make an enemy,”
said one former reporter, in comments to The Wrap about Garza’s resignation.

Notably, while Soon-Shiong promotes himself as a philanthropist, a Politico
analysis in 2017 found that his supposed philanthropy often benefits his own
companies. Indeed, a majority of the grants from Soon-Shiong’s organization
were awarded to companies or entities that he himself owned, the report
pointed out.


“The abuse is taking money that is supposed to be irrevocably dedicated to
charitable purposes … and using it for other, self-benefiting purposes,” Lloyd
Mayer, a Notre Dame law professor, told Politico at the time."


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443180


Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:51:39
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No...


What is a shame is seeing that Trump's "threats" to
journalists and destruction of the first amendment, have
taken root in various media outlets.

One more casualty of just the "threat" of fascism
becoming the power.




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443113


Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:58:08
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No...


Yep, imagine if nose holders all over the country had such moral fortitude..
maybe respectable people putting it all on the line as they are will help the
weaker amongst us grow a spine.


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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:16:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No...


what does that even mean?


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443116


Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:02:47
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LA Times Editor Quits in Protest Over Owner’s Demands for No...




Drop that mike!!!


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