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Date: October 25, 2024 at 08:03:18
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: US tax payer dollars to rebuild what US tax payer dollars destroyed... |
URL: https://x.com/JackMurphyRGR/status/1849579217534452045 |
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Department of State@StateDept
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Today, we're announcing an additional $135 million dollars in humanitarian
assistance — water, sanitation, maternal health — for Palestinians in Gaza as
well as in the region. - @SecBlinken from Doha, Qatar.
Jack Murphy:
US tax payer dollars to rebuild what US tax payer dollars destroyed. It's hard
not to feel a deep sense of cynicism and nihilism over this.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:33:52
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: US tax payer dollars to rebuild what US tax payer dollars... |
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The White House is limited to what it can do. The
billions for munitions were approved by Congress.
Where's the Congress to approve monies?
Trump won't let Mike Johnson help us shore up FEMA,
much less anyone else. I'd bet dollars to donuts if
Trump wins we'll be sending billions just to elbow the
Saudis out and make room for Trump Gaza
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:46:58
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: US tax payer dollars to rebuild what US tax payer dollars... |
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:59:16
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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are you fucking kidding? The US is breaking its own laws by continuing to fund
Israel's genocide. Study up, mitra.
I've posted solutions over and over and over and over again. You sound insane.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:09:43
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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kinda like the white house couldn’t do anything about immigration for 3
years because of congress, until suddenly an executive order dramatically
helped the border problem. kamala has been asked repeatedly why they
didn’t do this sooner and she never answers the question
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:55:48
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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executive orders are not a permament solution, only a
temporary one ...a bandaid.
The current administration understands that and have
been trying to get more permanent changes to
immigration law passed through permanent means. Those
efforts were not successful due to division in congress
and the interference of a presidential candidate who
wanted the problem and not a solution. What appears to
have happened is they reverted to a "temporary" order
after being unable to work with this congress and the
forces fighting any solution.
Let's be honest. The GOP led congress didn't want to
give this administration a win on anything..even if it
solved a problem. They've been a roadblock to progress,
and the reason this admin finally had to go a temporary
solution of an order instead.
Not to mention, as trump discovered in his term,
executive actions can be overturned by the supreme
court if found unconstitutional...like his muslim ban
(which was a complete mess, not to mention
unconstitutional).
Trump could not just shut down the border, he did not
make the immigration issue better, either. Obama had
trouble with getting legislation, too.
This is a problem that many presidents' administrations
have grappled with, mostly unsuccessfully.
Congress makes laws. Congress also holds the purse
strings that fund those laws. That is where a real
solution will come from...if it ever does (and we're
definitely going to need a new congress to do that.
This current one with Johnson at the head, is not going
to do the job).
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:56:09
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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executive orders come from the president. the vp has nothing to do with it, or
much else.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:56:59
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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This is true. The VP cannot make an executive order. She
does not have that power. Only the President (in this
case, Biden) can.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:17:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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Yeah, that's what I just said.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:34:10
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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you realize kamala was asked about this on 60 minutes, on fox with baier
and on cnn from anderson cooper? she is being asked in all these
interviews to see how she would handle a situation the biden
administration screwed up. and every time she talks about bills that failed
in congress including the first couple of years when dems controlled
congress. she never answers if the administration could dramatically cut
immigration with an executive order why it wasn’t done before
the white house has had options for many of the crisis including israel
and the border and they still allowed bad things to continue
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 15:46:48
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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She is Biden's VP until he steps down.
She's duty bound to support "his" policies and
decisions until it is otherwise.
She is not the type that will criticize her boss while
he serves still.
If she differs from his policies, she's going to have
to keep much of that to her chest. Around Gaza, for
instance..saying she disagrees with Biden's
plans/policies could tip off those Biden's working on
and derail negotiations, make things worse, or cause
others to walk away from the table to just "wait" Biden
out.
Her position is a fine line right now. Her oath to her
own current office binds her hands to some point.
I'm not sure how you don't understand that.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 16:00:17
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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interesting you think a candidate for president shouldn’t disagree with or
criticize her boss. seems like an odd campaign strategy when her boss
has historically low approval ratings and people think the country is
heading in the wrong direction. but what the hell, it’s been an odd
election year where anything can happen
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 16:30:49
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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It would be destructive to criticize foreign policy in
these cirumstances.
Basically, not saying what she would do exactly is her
only leverage with those foreign powers until she's
free to unveil otherwise.
You do remember what Reagan did to Carter? Carter was
negotiating with the Iranians to get hostages released.
Reagan was NOT his VP, but he illegally went and told
the Iranians to wait and work with him and get a better
deal instead..that worked.
The Iranians did not release the hostages and walked
away from Carter, then got the better deal (from their
perspective) when Reagan won.
Harris dropping hints on what she has planned could
cause one side or another to change tactics ...or not
do anything...or do something more destructive now.
Yes, I do think a candidate who "might" (because we
don't really know yet) disagree with some part of what
is going on, could interfere with the current admin's
efforts and make things worse.
She is smart, she knows this.
It's a shame you do not, or don't seem to be a student
of history.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 17:26:49
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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“It would be destructive to criticize foreign policy in
these cirumstances.”
red this isn’t about foreign policy but the issue of the border where she
keeps dodging questions. still a good point i suppose as she dodges
questions on foreign policy as well. very interesting you are comfortable
with your candidate not answering questions on policy. have to see what
voters think about that
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 17:59:50
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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Gaza and foreign policy is an example of how what a VP
says (especially if they disagree) on any policy can
disrupt current efforts of the ruling administration.
She's not going to trip up her boss's stuff to win a
cheap point in her campaign if she disagrees minorly or
majorly with current admin policy.
Trump isn't exactly answering some questions himself.
He dances around Ukraine as in, "how would you solve
it?" ..he makes confusing statements like, "I just will
solve it on a day" (laughable)...or his health care
plan? He has a "concept" LOLOL.
Good lord, why aren't you questioning that? The rest of
the country is.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 18:57:29
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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cuz he's a repug shill...not a thinker...evidenced by his inability to respond with a cogent rebuttal...
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:43:17
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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yes, and the executive order should have been done years earlier. instead
they reversed trump’s work on the border and ended up with record illegal
immigration. it’s a valid to ask kamala if that shouldn’t have been done
years earlier, the question has been asked by multiple interviewers and
even though she worked the border crisis and says she worked hand in
hand with biden she has no answer. but she doesn’t have answers for
most questions
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:59:02
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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no, I disagree.. they were right to at least make the
attempt at permanent solutions first.
The order only has power until the sitting president
resides in the whitehouse. It's quickly swept away if a
new one comes in.
It's a piss poor way to run a country and used as a
temporary last resort with other methods through
congress fail.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:13:06
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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Thank you. You answered all those questions elegantly.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:03:31
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously ??? The White House is limited to what it can do? |
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I'm still unclear why you believe Trump will do less harm than Harris. I take it
you're not pro-choice? Not that abortions are a great thing, but giving a woman
domain over her own body? Climate/pollution isn't a concern? Having an
extremely old person leading the country doesn't make you nervous?
Harris isn't dumb. She's been a prosecutor for many years. She's been tough
on criminals. She's certainly more disciplined than Trump. World leaders have
no respect for Trump. His self interest dictates every decision he's made as
president. That doesn't bother you?
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 08:04:11
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: We're funding both sides...(NT) |
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:01:24
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: We're funding both sides... okay. choose. |
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Of course.
Perhaps just one side?
Did you prefer we let Hamas/Iran(Russia & China) mow
over Israel ??? Force Israel to use their nukes and
start WW3 ???
Such naivete.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:01:48
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: quintessential fear mongering |
URL: The Generals’ Plan: An Israeli Blueprint for the Liquidation of Gaza |
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Russia & China are not involved, nor have they threatened to get involved.
while the US has been helping Israel "mow the lawn" for over a year.
Israel, fully supported by the US, is clearly committing genocide and mitra is
doing her damnedest to justify supporting it. How's she doing?
The Generals’ Plan: An Israeli Blueprint for the Liquidation of Gaza
MIDDLE EAST MONITOR
10/22/2024
By Nasim Ahmed
"A chilling scenario detailing Israel’s plan to liquidate northern Gaza through
starvation and extermination was revealed by +972 Magazine. Originally
published in Hebrew by journalist Meron Rapoport, the Israeli magazine
outlined a hypothetical operation that bears a striking resemblance to current
events in Gaza. Presented as a simulation of Israel’s plan in 2025, the key
elements of the extermination plan – from the motives for mass expulsion to
specific military strategies – align disturbingly with the ongoing assault on
Gaza.
Dubbed “Operation Order and Clean-up”, the plan in Rapoport’s scenario
involves ordering the temporary evacuation of all Palestinian residents north of
the Netzarim Corridor, ostensibly for their safety. However, the true intention, as
openly declared by far-right ministers like Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir,
is to impose a complete siege on the area, cutting off all supplies of water, food
and fuel until those who remain surrender or die of starvation.
Disturbingly, signs are that the blueprint for Gaza’s extermination is already
being implemented. This week, the World Food Programme (WFP) announced
that no food aid whatsoever has entered northern Gaza since 1 October, 2024.
WFP has said it is unclear how long remaining food supplies in the north will
last, as they have already been distributed to shelters and health facilities.
Rapoport’s scenario mirrors proposals from influential Israeli figures like Giora
Eiland. Eiland’s plan, unveiled recently, calls for ordering all residents of
northern Gaza to leave within a week, before imposing a total siege on the area.
The plan explicitly states that those who remain would either surrender or die of
starvation.
Referred to since as the “General’s plan,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu also shared details of the proposal during a closed meeting of the
Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee at the end of last month. It
was initiated by Eiland, who is described in Israel as a “strategist” of the Gaza
war and is among those consulting with Netanyahu during Israel’s genocidal
campaign.
Other influential figures who are said to be charting a course towards the
extermination of Palestinians in Gaza include Professor Uzi Rabi, a senior
researcher at Tel Aviv University. In a radio interview on 15 September, Rabi
reportedly suggested: “Remove the entire civilian population from the north,
and whoever remains there will be lawfully sentenced as a terrorist and
subjected to a process of starvation or extermination.”
Rapoport references several sources to argue that, while he is presenting a
hypothetical scenario, any plan for Gaza’s eradication would closely resemble
the actions Israel has been carrying out over the past year. A report in Ynet
indicated that government ministers had been pressuring Netanyahu to
“cleanse” northern Gaza of its inhabitants as early as August. Additionally, a
proposal titled “From a murderous regime to a moderate society: The
transformation and reconstruction of Gaza after Hamas”, authored by Israeli
academics, was submitted to decision-makers. The study called for the “total
defeat” of Hamas as a precondition for starting a process of “deradicalisation”
of Palestinians in Gaza. The strategy paper recommends aid to be delivered
only when areas have been “purged” of Hamas, a goal that is widely considered
unrealistic.
“Liquidation,” Digital, Dream / Dreamland v3 / Clip2Comic, 2024.
Critics, including those generally supportive of Israel, have cast doubt on the
feasibility of Israel’s stated goals of “total victory” and “purging” Hamas. They
argue that Israel’s strategy of widespread destruction and indiscriminate killing
is likely to backfire, fostering resentment and resistance among Palestinians for
generations to come. Moreover, the tendency for Israeli officials and their
supporters to blur the lines between combatants and civilians in Gaza provides
a dangerous justification for what the International Court of Justice (ICJ) has
deemed a plausible case of genocide.
Numerous statements from Israeli officials support this view. For instance,
Israeli President Isaac Herzog implied that there were no innocent civilians in
Gaza and attempted to justify attacks on civilians by claiming that the entire
Gazan population was responsible for the 7 October attacks. Likewise, Rami
Igra, a former Mossad director, argued that, due to Gazans voting for Hamas,
there is: “No such thing as a non-combatant population in the Gaza Strip.”
The rhetoric justifying indiscriminate violence against Palestinians in Gaza has
not been confined to Israeli officials. Prominent supporters of Israel abroad
have echoed similar sentiments, blurring the distinction between combatants
and civilians. In a particularly troubling example, Alan Dershowitz and Andrew
Stein, writing for the New York Post, openly questioned the innocence of Gaza’s
civilian population. They provocatively asked: “Just how many of Gaza’s
civilians are entirely ‘innocent’?” and went further, challenging: “Who exactly
are these ‘civilians’ and just how innocent are they?”
The scenario outlined in +972 Magazine exposes how the deliberate blurring of
the distinction between civilians and combatants is integral for a plan to
eradicate Gaza. The strategy, which effectively treats all Palestinians as
legitimate targets, paves the way for Israel’s mass extermination policy. Far from
being hypothetical, this approach mirrors actual practices in Gaza. An example
cited by Rapoport comes from a commander of the Israeli Air Force’s drone
squadron, who told Ynet in August about an operation in Nuseirat Camp:
“Whoever did not flee, even if he was unarmed, as far as we were concerned,
was a terrorist. Everyone we killed should have been killed.”
Speculating on what 2025 holds in store for Israel following a policy of mass
extermination in Gaza, the article states that one of the consequences is likely
to be the possible declarations of genocide by the ICJ and arrest warrants from
the International Criminal Court for Israeli leaders.
While the article presents this as a potential future scenario, it emphasises that
the open discussion of plans to starve and exterminate hundreds of thousands
of people demonstrates the current state of Israeli society. Rapoport warns that
despite potential obstacles, including international pressure and domestic
opposition, the scenario is not far-fetched given the accelerated process of
dehumanisation towards Palestinians in Israeli society since 7 October.
The author concludes by stating: “And regardless of what happens over the
coming months, the very fact that open proposals to starve and exterminate
hundreds of thousands of people are up for debate demonstrates precisely
where Israeli society stands today.”"
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 08:05:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: billions for genocide, millions for those being genocided... (NT) |
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:47:44
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Garbage spin. more anti-Biden ... what would help the people? |
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Blinken is moving fast with what he has for
humanitarian aid.
The billions were approved by Congress.
More veiled pro-Trump propaganda.
Too bad the Palestinians can't say which they would
rather have, food water, housing, med aid now or wait
for Congress to convene, go through its process, wait
for budget process and the Trump label on the new
casino.
Damn. Think about it.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 10:54:57
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: not having their lives, hospitals, communities bombed into dust? |
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try thinking about it yourself, mitra. You haven't posted a word of criticism for
US' participation in a literal genocide. The entire world can see what Israel is
doing to Gaza and now Lebanon. You are a fascination in stupidity.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:41:10
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: not having their lives, hospitals, communities bombed into dust? |
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And you didn't answer the question, just made another
personal attack. Another, by the way, inaccurate.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:12:55
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: fascistic |
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is the word that comes to mind.
Would you like to live in Mitra's world, where criticism equates propaganda?
That's the label she frequently gives my posts when I express criticism for US
policies and practices.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 11:21:57
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: fascistic |
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I live in mitra's world where honest questions and
challenges are ignored and responded with personal
attacks.
Just another propaganda ploy.
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