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443056


Date: October 24, 2024 at 14:14:57
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??

URL: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blew-off-disaster-relief-requests-from-washington-other-states/ar-AA1sSaKH?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=8fe7a8ad135e482ebeb4501507541402&ei=15


someone who withholds federal aid to those who need it
but happen to be in a state that djt doesn't like?
Dang, can you IMAGINE what power grabs he will do if he
gets back in?? Or don't you care? Or it doesn't
bother you at all??

"Trump Blew Off Disaster Relief Requests From
Washington, Other States

Donald Trump refused a request for federal disaster
relief funds from Washington Gov. Jay Inslee in 2020
after wildfires tore through the eastern portion of the
states, Politico's E&E News reports.

The dispute between the former president and Democratic
governor adds yet another entry to Trump's record of
injecting partisan politics into disaster response
efforts - all while he attempts to accuse President Joe
Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris of intentionally
withholding aid from Republican areas affected by
hurricanes in the southeastern United States.

According to E&E News, Inslee requested $37 million in
federal disaster funds in September 2020 to respond to
the fires. According to the governor, Trump ignored the
request, refusing to approve the aid even after a FEMA
inspection confirmed that the damage to Washington
communities met the threshold for federal assistance.
The aid was ultimately approved by President Biden two
weeks after he took office - about five months after
the fires swept the region.

"It really was an outrageous abuse of power," Inslee
told E&E News.

Trump and Inslee had been engaged in a public back-and-
forth over the Trump's administration's handling of the
Covid-19 pandemic. In March 2020, the former president
called Inslee a "snake" after Inslee tweeted that
pandemic mitigation efforts would "be more successful
if the Trump administration stuck to the science and
told the truth."

It's not the first time Trump's personal feelings about
a politician hindered his administration's response to
a natural disaster. Through their investigation into
the Washington fires, E&E News also found three other
instances in which federal disaster funds were delayed
significantly beyond the usual average of 17 days for
presidential approval during public feuds between Trump
and state leaders.

Gov. Brian Kemp (R-Ga.) certified Georgia's 2020
election results three days after requesting federal
funds to aid communities affected by a major tropical
storm. Trump - publicly enraged at Kemp and Georgia
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's refusal to
usurp the election results in his favor - ignored the
request for almost two months, finally approving the
aid days before he left office.

Records reviewed by E&E News found that Trump also
waited 97 days to approve aid for Utah after a series
of storms in October 2020. Weeks after the state made
the request, then-Gov. Gary Herbert - a Republican -
publicly affirmed Biden as the winner of the 2020
election.

He didn't approve a disaster relief request from
Maryland's Republican Gov. Larry Hogan at all. Hogan
had been publicly critical of Trump, and went on to
support efforts to impeach him after the Jan. 6 Capitol
attack. Hogan's request came on November 12 - days
after networks called the election in favor of Biden -
and was not approved until after Biden was inaugurated.

The withholding of aid over the final months of Trump's
administration reflects a larger pattern throughout his
presidency. Earlier this month, E&E News reported that
in 2018 Trump refused to approve disaster aid for areas
affected by wildfires in California until members of
his staff showed him data proving that the affected
counties contained a sufficient number of his
supporters. Earlier this month, Trump threatened to
withhold aid from California because he doesn't like
the state's Democratic Gov. Gavin Newson. "We're going
to take care of your situation, and will force it down
[Newsom's] throat," Trump told supporters. "And we'll
say, Gavin, if you don't do it, we're not giving any of
that fire money that we send you all the time for all
the fire, forest fires that you have. It's not hard to
do."

The Trump administration also blocked nearly $20
billion in hurricane relief to Puerto Rico in the
aftermath of Hurricane Maria, which ravaged the island
in 2017.

By contrast, Trump is perfectly happy to help out state
leaders who he feels have been deferential enough to
him. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis described speaking to
Trump in 2019 after Hurricane Michael in a memoir
published last year. "This is Trump country - and they
need your help," DeSantis pitched Trump, as part of a
pitch to have the federal government cover all of the
state's recovery costs instead of the standard 75
percent. "They love me in the panhandle," the former
president replied. "I must have won 90 percent of the
vote out there. Huge crowds. What do they need?"

Shortly after, Trump signed an executive order
approving DeSantis' request.

Trump plays favorites, and has made it clear that -
even as president - he feels he owes nothing to those
who don't lavish him with praise and support."


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443061


Date: October 24, 2024 at 15:38:59
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


Trump is the biggest shit. He enjoys the cruelty. It's a
perk for him.
He cares nothing for this country, or its people only
himself.


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443060


Date: October 24, 2024 at 14:52:48
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


my choice is between chase oliver or jill stein. i
posted that about a week ago. so don't mix me up with
harris or4 trump.


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443151


Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:48:04
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


In other words, charlie, you're throwing your vote in the
garbage can...

Surely you must realize neither of those people can win...


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443168


Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:10:48
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


at least i dont have to vote for them


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443064


Date: October 24, 2024 at 15:47:43
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


...if you don't support Harris you don't fit in with the
master plan.


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443075


Date: October 24, 2024 at 17:16:46
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


true, i say i’m gonna hold my nose and vote for trump and dishonest
assholes here keep attacking me for not defending trump. this “you are
with us or against” mentality is one of the most dangerous things today in
this country


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443080


Date: October 24, 2024 at 20:21:30
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


that is the rump motto...still amazing you don't see it...


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443069


Date: October 24, 2024 at 16:50:37
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


i dont support trump either


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443070


Date: October 24, 2024 at 16:53:23
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


i don't want trump yelling all the time or trying to
figure out what she said or the meaning of the words


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443074


Date: October 24, 2024 at 17:06:42
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


well chas, fwiw, those are the choices...and there is only one of those choices that is in the interest of you and the country...


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443076


Date: October 24, 2024 at 17:19:48
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


fi we elect harris, who would be running the country?
certainly not harris. if we elect trump we get
gridlock. both of them will face a depression worse
than '29.


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443081


Date: October 24, 2024 at 20:58:16
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


Sorry..don't follow. Why would she not be running the
country? She would be the President.

Is this a "women can't lead" thing, Charles? Because
they certainly can, and have in history over and over
from Cleopatra to Queen Elizabeth I and all over the
world from Thatcher in England and Merkel in Germany and
so many other countries.


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443100


Date: October 25, 2024 at 08:51:16
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


so criticizing Harris is sexist now?


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443171


Date: October 25, 2024 at 14:15:34
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


Not necessarily--but that is why I asked for
clarification from Charles. I "asked" him.

He is of an older generation where many are. Whether he
is or not, only he can answer.


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443088


Date: October 25, 2024 at 06:55:31
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


it's not about being female, she is nothing but
soundbites. she has said nothing original that i have
heard. biden picked her because she was a nothing
mindwise.


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443161


Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:41:38
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


Sorry, having followed her over the years, I don't
believe that at all.


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443079


Date: October 24, 2024 at 20:19:53
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: if trump or harris wins, we are in a world of shit


why not harris? but of course, she will have a lot of good helpers...no president really runs the country by themself...just vote for her...


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443067


Date: October 24, 2024 at 16:19:52
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


note...you are on the verge of losing the privilege you have...


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443073


Date: October 24, 2024 at 17:04:41
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


why treat him like this? he is one of our longtime and most civil posters


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443068


Date: October 24, 2024 at 16:19:52
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...did Kamala mention a plan for world peace?


I'll settle for a world that doesn't have one more country
taken over by rightwing authoritarian lunatics, thanks very
much... One step at a time...


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443066


Date: October 24, 2024 at 15:59:21
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's not about who you support Chas, but who you don't...


If you don't support Harris, correct: You don't fit in with
the Fascist Racist Misogynistic Backward-Devolutionary
Republican Master Plan...

Count me a proud, card-carrying member...


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443058


Date: October 24, 2024 at 14:40:36
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


it’s just not that compelling when the best thing anyone can say about
kamala is but trump, but trump, but trump


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443062


Date: October 24, 2024 at 15:40:29
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Chas and Old Timer - THIS is who you want??


well, you're not a compelling salesman either.

But that's the thing, when there's the biggest shit in
the middle of the room, it's very hard to focus on
anything else but the stench.

I, for one, would not like that stench for another 4
yrs.


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