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Date: October 16, 2024 at 12:19:25
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the Democratic |
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it is strange the dems went with biden with his historically low approval
ratings and well after the primaries forced him out only to be replaced by
vp kamala with equally low approval ratings. if trump wins the dems
should consider an actual primary in 2028 and not just whoever the dnc
ordains
Opinion: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the
Democratic Party?
How bad do you have to be to lose to Donald Trump? Kamala Harris and
Tim Walz may soon show us.
Nicole Russell
USA TODAY
If Democrats aren't panicking yet, they might want to start. The Kamala
Harris honeymoon is over, and the glow has dissipated.
In six of the seven battleground states, former President Donald Trump
now shows a slight lead in the polls. An NBC News poll released Sunday
shows Harris and Trump tied in the national vote.
We are three weeks out from Election Day and one thing has become
clear: Trump might actually win.
A Trump win would raise a lot of questions for Republicans. He's an
objectively bad candidate who doesn't represent conservatism well.
However, it would raise even more questions for Democrats. How could
they have lost to such a uniquely awful opponent?
Democrats chose poorly − twice
If Trump wins this election, it will expose the Democrats' weakness in
choosing a nominee and relaying party ideas. In that case, they'll have
backed inept candidates not once but twice this year. How embarrassing.
President Joe Biden barely won the 2020 election with 7 million votes.
Since then, he has declined physically and mentally. Propping him up as
the Democratic nominee earlier this year was not just unwise but
unscrupulous.
The Democratic Party knew Biden was unwell and hoped no one would
notice. In June, the presidential debate against Trump exposed his
decline.
Democrats then hastily replaced Biden with his vice president. Never mind
that she had not won a single primary, that their collective approval
ranking was tanking and that her politics are much more extreme than
Biden's.
It was either pick Harris or go on with Biden, who Democrats feared would
lose in a landslide.
Former President Donald Trump campaigns for reelection on Oct. 13,
2024, in Prescott Valley, Ariz., where National Border Patrol Council
President Paul Perez endorsed the Republican presidential nominee.
Democrats are too extreme
If you listen to Democrats and the news media, the GOP is the party of
extremists and idiots. There are fringe folks on the right, to be sure. But
far-left extremists have found a home in the Democratic Party as well.
In the past couple of decades, the Democratic Party has built its
foundation around far-left ideas. If Trump wins reelection, it will be yet
another indication that much of the nation has rejected such progressive
policies.
Harris' economic plans center on government handouts and government
control. What other candidate espouses giving away billions of taxpayers'
dollars for down payments for first-time homebuyers? Not even the
Obama administration did that.
Harris and her running mate's social policies are no better: As governor of
Minnesota, Tim Walz signed legislation that allows abortion essentially
without restrictions, made Minnesota a sanctuary state for transgender
youth and expanded access to driver's licenses for undocumented
immigrants.
Sophistry is common among politicians. We've gotten used to it. But
Harris and Walz have taken dishonest campaigning to a new level.
A Trump win might reveal that voters, including some who usually support
Democrats, are tired of the party's extremism. It also could demonstrate
that voters may not support identity politics as much as the Democratic
Party wishes they would.
The GOP could win a trifecta
Republicans could very well come out of this election in strong shape,
controlling not only the White House but also both houses of Congress.
They appear to be on track to win the Senate.
Control of the House looks like a toss-up for now, but the GOP might
retain the majority after Election Day.
With a Republican majority in the Senate, Trump could enact solid reforms
and end Biden policies that have wreaked havoc on Americans.
Trump also might be able to extend his soon-to-expire tax cuts, rescind
Biden's executive orders on his obscene student loan forgiveness plan
and start to enforce federal laws on border security and migration.
Trump seems like an easy candidate to beat
Of all the candidates who Republicans could have nominated, one would
think that Democrats could most easily defeat Trump again.
Embarrassingly easy.
Trump is a childish, narcissistic buffoon who wants power more than he
loves his country. He's a dishonest misogynist who happily defies political
norms. He's a charlatan who has captured a sect of Republicans in a way
that's alarming. He can't speak without rambling about nonsense. He
refuses to seek advice, admit wrongdoing or work to improve himself.
Nonetheless, I do believe that conservative policies are always better for
Americans. In fact, they're so good, Democrats like former President Bill
Clinton espoused them.
If Trump wins, it won't be because of his stellar candidacy. It will be
because the Democratic Party − its candidates and its ideas − was much
weaker than expected.
And if Trump could enact a few decent conservative policies while in
office, thanks to a GOP majority in the Senate, it would be a massive
improvement to the past four years. A few policy changes might steer
America back in the right direction.
Trump's success on Election Day would showcase just how weak the
Democratic Party really is in America.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 12:48:32
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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If Trump wins, I think Biden deserves most of the blame. He should have
denounced running a 2nd term altogether. But it seems he was just stubborn,
self-centered and of course, increasingly demented. the dnc could have held
primaries to find the strongest candidate. But no. And here we are.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:56:40
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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And if Trump loses, Biden could catch the credit for
hanging in there and catching the flak until Harris
could present a winning strategy.
Win or lose there will be plenty of credit or blame to
pass around.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 15:47:27
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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bopp seems to be playing the deleting game, but as i said blame should
definitely fall on those around biden, his inner circle who covered up his
cognitive decline along with the dnc who elbowed others out of the
primary even though his approval ratings were historically low. no matter
who wins the dnc has set an example of how a democratic presidential
election should not be run
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 18:27:32
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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you keep making a big deal about biden and his decision not to run again...it was a big deal, but for the bs you keep putting out...the dims gave biden defernece, s he had eared, as a sitting president and a public servant for some 50 years...they saw and were concerned about his ability to hold the office for another 4 years...they conferred with each other and with him, and in the end, he decded that they were right, and he was not up to the challenge, and didn't want to lessen his legacy...so he graciously withdrew...that is the big deal....the dims perceived a problem, and dealt with it, from biden on down...sometimes you just have to go with the flow...the whole nefarious scenario you keep putting out is just another big load of your crap, trying to make something that was a big positive, into a negative...but you are a rump licker...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 20:52:29
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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that’s a damned dishonest retelling of the first time in american history a
sitting president who won the primaries has been forced out before the
election. saying biden graciously withdrew may be something the tv
talking heads say but no one believes that shit. we all witnessed biden’s
cognitive decline. we all watched him show he no longer had it in the june
debate. we all watched biden say he was absolutely not stepping aside for
almost a month. we all saw his fundraising withheld and high profile
democrats and celebrities call for him to step aside. there was nothing
gracious about that sad spectacle
it is a big deal and one for the history books that is unlikely to ever happen
again. biden should never have run, people around him including the vp
and all high ranking democrats had to be aware of his cognitive decline
and yet they tried to cover it up until they no longer could cover it up. the
democrats really fucked up many different ways in the 2024 presidential
election
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:16:01
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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that's your framing: forced out.
Yet this President "withdrew" himself, of his own will
and one last sacrifice for his country.
He's running things fine right now. Another 4 yrs? His
tank is emptying fast, it's a fact..as anyone's would
at his age.
He talks slower, walks slower, is more fragile...but
between Trump and him, his mind sounds sharper and more
tethered to reality.
Trump...has completely lost his mind as far as I can
tell.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:33:51
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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biden had zero choice, he vowed not to step aside but when the funding
stopped and all the top democrats said he was hurting the overall
election he stepped aside. sure he could have soldiered on as he
wanted to and without funding or support continued his campaign and
lost but that wasn’t really much of a choice
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Date: October 17, 2024 at 12:17:04
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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That's not what I read the situation at all. It wasn't
clear at all if he was actually going to step back or
not. That money would have come back..most of it. It
was a tactic. Joe knew that.
And you know what? Even if Biden had decided to stay
in, I wasn't going to vote for that corrupt, demented
orange turd. He still would have been a better choice.
Frankly, I'm delighted with Kamala Harris, the natural
choice as she was his running mate to begin with and
was already in the race.
And...all this no longer matters but to support some
sort of red herring discussion to remove the focus on
idiot Trump who seems to be blowing himself up with his
own lunacy on the campaign trail right now.
He's falling apart fast and it's showing..like
threatening to turn the military on his political
enemies or anyone that doesn't support him. Playing
versions of Ava Maria for 38 min because people were
passing out from the heat and interrupting him, getting
him frustrated. Stranding people in Coachella desert
without caring what happened to them.
It's all about him, his dream of becoming the American
Putin or Hitler or whatever it is he thinks he's doing
(a traitor).
Have fun deconstructing Biden. We've moved on to the
real threat: Trump
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:58:37
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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who cares? ancient history at this point...i can see you're a rump man...you live in the past...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 23:44:36
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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if you don’t are why are you pushing the bullshit about he graciously
stepped aside?
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Date: October 17, 2024 at 00:52:25
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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to help clear your addled mind...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 21:06:05
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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whaddya mean "no one" believes? i believe it...biden may be declining cognitively but he certainly has enough awareness and thinking ability to make the decision...he appears to have a bit more cognitive ability than the rump too...
maybe he should have never run, but he did...you're projecting that the people around him "knew" anything...he was/is the sitting president...it was his choice to make...and after considerable reflection he decided to bow out...if you had been screaming like this when raygun was a veggie you might have a bit more credibility...but you are just a partisan hitman with no credibility whatsoever...
and the bottom line is, it is a moot point...he is out, harris is the candidate, and your guy is a sniveling moron...you need to start considering and dealing with your own choices...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:17:24
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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I'm glad he ran. he stabilized this country after the
horrendous Trump years.
We needed that.
Thanks Joe.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:59:55
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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i meant in this election...he prevented rump from getting a second term...will always be grateful for that...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:11:52
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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maybe he should never have run? they say hindsight is 20/20 and if can’t
say he absolutely shouldn’t have run at this point in time you are blind. not
projecting anything, with both saw him in the june debate and if you think
it wasn’t obvious to those around him you are very naive. or maybe just
lucky enough to have never been around someone going through
alzheimers/dementia
it’s not a moot point and if kamala loses there will be endless discussion
on how the dnc fucked up. that what the article that started this thread is
about
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 22:57:22
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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in your mind...remember, he started running a bout a year before the debate...or at least had decided to...it was a no brainer for a sitting pres...kamala will win and i bet you'll still be discussing it in the future...lol...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 23:51:04
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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i remember how far back the media was reporting on biden’s many
gaffes and it dates back a long time. many of you wouldn’t admit it until he
crashed and burned in the debate but that was the end, not the beginning.
his approval ratings also didn’t end up in the toilet suddenly this year
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:24:45
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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amazing how you continue to harp on the side shows while the major issues escape your criticism...if your posts are being deleted i've heard that is a warning...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:31:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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considering there was nothing objectionable i see it as a sign of your
insecurities
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 17:06:17
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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please try to stay on topic...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:14:56
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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don't know why he deleted mine..
" no matter who wins the dnc has set an example of how a democratic
presidential election should not be run"
Agree. As I said in my deleted post, the dnc clearly failed to learn from it's
dysfunction Hillary Clinton campaign.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:29:47
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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Oh but DID they fail, Akira?
I'm sorry, but you're going to have to
actually wait until they actually do fail,
if they do, to land all these negs...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 16:09:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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Maybe wait till Kamala loses before you
start flinging blame for the loss, old
man...lol...
But I know, you and Akira just can't help
but fling whatever nonsense you can...
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 12:54:08
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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Yes indeed, akira, here we are... Though it dismays you so,
we understand, because all's you've got are
Negatives...these from you, about Joe, are essentially
irrelevant because Harris is *not going to lose*...
You do have Yes-Saying muscles, do you not?
Do you find nothing whatsoever to say Yes to?
What's that old saying? Hatred of war will never bring
peace, only love of peace creates peace?
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 13:50:46
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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Oh, there's her peaceful demeanor right there.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 12:27:09
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump might win this election. What does that say about the... |
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No, Donald won't win...and yes, the Democratic party has
some things yet to learn about getting cutthroat enough to
deal ideally and effectively with the perverse, immoral
likes of the current GOP...
Oh but they will...and are, already... ;->
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