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Date: October 14, 2024 at 08:38:41
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: VIOLENTLY AUTHORITARIAN DJT threatens Americans w/military |
URL: https://www.rawstory.com/violently-authoritarian-alarm-over-trumps-threat-to-use-military-against-americans/ |
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(Full title: ‘Violently authoritarian’: Alarm over Trump’s threat to use military against Americans)
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And here it is, kids, in black and white...so, Old Timer and other DJTers, gird your loins and get ready for the most righteous pushback you've ever imagined on your Fascist Agenda nightmare bullshit... You can take your whining about "sleepy Joe" and "hoping to repair the damage he's caused" and shove it sideways, this country will not pay for your fears with its soul...
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Donald Trump over the weekend repeatedly said he wants to use the U.S. military against Americans who oppose him, called his critics “the enemy from within,” and declared they are more dangerous than America’s greatest foreign adversaries, including Russia, China and North Korea.
“I always say we have the outside enemy, so you can say China, you can say Russia, you can say, Kim Jung-Un,” Trump told supporters at an Aurora, Colorado rally on Friday.
But, he added as the audience cheered, “It’s the enemy from within, all the scum that we have to deal with. that hate our country. That’s a bigger enemy than China and Russia.”
On Sunday, Trump told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo of his desire to use armed forces against Americans on Election Day.
“I think the bigger problem is the people from within, we have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the — and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary by the military.”
READ MORE: ‘Fascist to the Core’: Trump’s Top General Slams Ex-President as ‘Most Dangerous Person’
Pointing to those remarks, constitutional law scholar Laurence Tribe says, “Just think what this means for the 2028 election if Trump & Vance are in control as of January 20, 2025.”
In both events Trump had been talking about undocumented immigrants before switching his target to American citizens.
AFP called his remarks against U.S. citizens a “sinister election-related threat.” Rolling Stone called it a “a fascist plan to deploy military forces against U.S. citizens who oppose him on election day.” HuffPost described his remarks as “echoing similar language used by Nazis,” and HuffPost legal/justice reporter Brandi Buchman warned the “level of danger that people face if he is ever allowed near office again cannot be understated.” The New Republic declared Trump went “Full Dictator.”
“Trump as President and Commander in Chief would seek to wage war on the American people,” warned historian and professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, an expert on fascism and authoritarianism. She adds, “our armed forces could have a new authoritarian role: domestic repression. ‘Handling’ the Leader’s enemies=violence.”
Attorney and former federal and state prosecutor Eric Lisann responded, writing: “Trump has already requested military equipment and protection for him now, as a mere candidate. He will gut the military of its finest leaders, many of whom have identified the historic threat he poses to the country, and turn it into his personal guard.”
The popular historian and professor Heather Cox Richardson called Trump’s attack on his political opponents, “the full leap to authoritarianism.”
“Trump’s full-throated embrace of Nazi ‘race science’ and fascism is deadly dangerous,” she added, noting his “campaign seems to be deliberately pushing the comparisons to historic American fascism by announcing that Trump will hold a rally at New York City’s Madison Square Garden on October 27, an echo of a February 1939 rally held there by American Nazis in honor of President George Washington’s birthday.”
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And historian Steven A. Woodbridge wrote: “Pointing to the ‘enemy within’ is a classic strategy used by those with authoritarian tendencies many times in the past & it would appear nothing has changed. This man is a clear threat to democracy.”
Journalist Ahmed Baba warned, “Trump’s rhetoric is growing more violently authoritarian. His migrant fear- mongering is increasingly racist and now he’s once again saying he’ll deploy the military against people he disagrees with. Trump’s insane authoritarianism is the most important story of this election.”
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:11:35
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 13:19:54
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 14:00:06
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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it does feel a bit like 1939, on the verge of the next world war. the question is will it start in the middle east or ukraine. i suppose with russia aligning themselves with iran either is possible
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 14:51:32
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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I'm talking about the rise of fascism..namely, Trump.
Trump who would encourage it, only this time taking American on the wrong side.
That's who you are apparently backing.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 14:57:47
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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oh, well you must have meant 1933
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 12:08:38
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Really, that’s all you have to offer? |
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What comes to mind is here we are in 2024 and a rabid dog is foaming at the mouth spewing hate and needs to be put down. While millions of Americans have been infected by his vile crap and are sick enough themselves that they will need to be restricted in their ability to influence society until they no longer pose a threat to the rest of us.
What comes to mind, Nev, is we are in a crisis that if not dealt with seriously can destroy our way of life, can destroy all life on Earth. That to fall prey to the sickness that has already infected the entire GOP, could set us back to the dark ages. Fuck man, this shit can send us back to living in caves.
And you think we’re living in some far away long forgotten? That’s why we’re where we are, because folks are willing to live in the past rather than be responsible for themselves in the here and now.
Can you imagine, Nev, if folks were actually responsible for themselves? Only dealt in the truth..
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 12:44:48
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Really, that’s all you have to offer? |
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“What comes to mind is here we are in 2024 and a rabid dog is foaming at the mouth spewing hate and needs to be put down. ”
we all see it, but that’s a little extreme. give a good mental health professional a chance and you may find you aren’t so overwhelmed with hate and you may be able to exert some self control. all that hate and constantly foaming at the mouth isn’t healthy and life is short, don’t waste it
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 12:57:58
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Really, that’s all you have to offer? |
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Old Timer...maybe if you didn't belong to a party that literally *feeds upon hatred as its lifeblood* (hatred of nonWhites, hatred toward those of alternate sexuality, hatred of the poor, hatred of the disabled, hatred of women, hatred of that gnarly, pesky Constitution and Bill of Rights that still promises aspiration toward equal rights for All...), your pretending as if you *have some kind of ground to stand on* in preaching about hatred to ao *might have a sliver of ground* to stand on...
But as it stands you're sounding pretty lame there, old man, parroting that *hate* word at us as if it isn't the very lifeblood of your very own GOP anymore...
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 13:53:58
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Really, that’s all you have to offer? |
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That's all that OT has.. he projects himself on us. I cut to the chase and am blunt so he projects the thing he hates in himself on me.. simple.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:20:00
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: April 12, 1861 comes to mind...(NT) |
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Just like you, SpinMan, to try and style relentless objection to Fascism as inciting civil war...
...lolololololol...
But hey...that's what we know to expect from you, whenever you slide out through the cracks...
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:24:46
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Always consider the price of what you fail to say...and deny...(NT)(NT) |
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:33:20
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...and perhaps you wish I wondered what you're talking about...lol n/t(NT) |
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 08:48:21
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: VIOLENTLY AUTHORITARIAN DJT threatens Americans w/military |
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Yup, full American nazi mode now.
No one is safe from this man, even his own supporters.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 09:14:43
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: VIOLENTLY AUTHORITARIAN DJT threatens Americans w/military |
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The garden variety German lost the father, the sons, even grandfather to war. Women suffered horribly from rapes, privation, and loss of community.
Listening to trumplican radio, this language is never mentioned unless directed against the enemies of God and country, and the listeners are expected to blindly follow as the Germans over the cliffs of war.
This is the logical progression of what Eisenhower warned: an ignorant population groomed only for manning weapons and following orders.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:20:45
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: VIOLENTLY AUTHORITARIAN DJT threatens Americans w/military |
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History has given us many warnings..it seems many have forgotten them at their own peril. One lesson looms large: it never ends well.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 09:27:00
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: VIOLENTLY AUTHORITARIAN DJT threatens Americans w/military |
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I can just hear the dark perverse rhetoric now...though I'm loathe to put the words I hear through my fingers...things on the order of: "How willing are YOU to PROVE YOUR LOYALTY? What service will YOU render to those guaranteeing your SAFETY? Your FAMILY'S SAFETY??? Your BIRTHRIGHT in HEAVEN? GIVE UP those you know oppose our BELOVED KING DJT!!! And there are people who'd stand in line, just to do so...... My own family would give me up in a heartbeat...
...oof...now I need a shower...
What's worse, ya think? Speaking Its Name so clearly, or Not? hm...
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