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442070


Date: October 08, 2024 at 13:07:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I really wanted to vote for her ...

URL: https://x.com/LaraFriedmanDC


and was hopeful for a moment.

Vice President Kamala Harris:

"The people of Lebanon are facing an increasingly dire humanitarian situation. I
am concerned about the security and well-being of civilians suffering in
Lebanon and will continue working to help meet the needs of all civilians there.

To that end, the United States will provide nearly $157 million in additional
assistance to the people of Lebanon for essential needs such as food, shelter,
water, protection, and sanitation to help those who have been displaced by the
recent conflict. This additional support brings total U.S. assistance to Lebanon
over the last year to over $385 million."
7:37 PM · Oct 5, 2024

President, Foundation for Middle East Peace, Lara Friedman:

"This statement, delivered literally at the exact moment when Israel is massively
bombing Beirut with US supplied bombs, causing mass destruction-terror-
displacement-injuries-death among Lebanese, Palestinian refugees & Syrian
refugees, is a truly obscene level of gaslighting."





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442106


Date: October 08, 2024 at 21:35:29
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so we provide the bombs and provide rebuilding again?


our tax dollars???


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442076


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:03:33
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I really wanted / Pro-Palestinians back Harris over Trump

URL: https://thehill.com/policy/international/4922430-uncommitted-group-back-harris/



"As a Palestinian American,” she said in the video,
“the current administration’s handling of this genocide
has been beyond enraging and demoralizing, but the
reality is that it can get worse.”

“Nobody wants a Trump presidency more than Netanyahu
because that is his ticket to wiping Palestine off the
map,” Zeidan said about the embattled right-wing prime
minister in Israel.

Zeidan said Project 2025 proposes cuts to humanitarian
aid to the West Bank and Gaza, which she said described
as “effectively closing off not just the meager
resources getting in, but one of the only points of
contact Gaza has with the outside world.”

She also suggested a future Trump presidency could
result in the displacement of the Palestinian people
from the territories and deliver on “massively
expanding settlements.” At home, she said, Project 2025
would crack down on pro-Palestinian protests


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442084


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:41:26
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock step


& neither do I. Your headline is deliberately misleading. That's 1 person. You
conveniently ignore all of the horrendous decisions and actions of the Biden
administration throughout the year. "But Trump will be worse" is a weak &
disturbingly dishonest response.

Israel's year-long genocidal campaign would have been impossible without the
enduring, expensive, illegal, immoral support of the Biden/Harris administration.
As long as Harris continues to indicate she'll follow the same path, I have no
plan to support her.


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442112


Date: October 09, 2024 at 05:35:12
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the disconnect is palpable

URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/55816.html


There's so much concern about the US losing its democracy with another
trump presidency. I'm not attempting to minimize the threat, but I find it
interesting that the same folks here terrified by that prospect express zero
concern and outrage for our country's continuous participation in a now year-
long ethnic cleansing campaign which has now killed over 41,000, mostly
women & children. Israel is literally targeting refugee camps and has only
amped up its slaughter in Gaza, not to mention Lebanon.

The disconnect is palpable. You demand democracy at home, while
supporting suppression and genocide outside your safe and secure borders.


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442103


Date: October 08, 2024 at 18:50:59
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock...


"But Trump will be worse"

Is all that matters... dear.


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442101


Date: October 08, 2024 at 17:30:30
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock...




So you didn't visit the link... more from there:
..............

"The “Uncommitted” National Movement – a pro-
Palestinian political group opposing the Biden
administration’s support for Israel – encouraged its
followers to back Vice President Harris’s presidential
bid over former President Trump’s, less than one month
ahead of Election Day.

The group stopped short of issuing a formal endorsement
of the Democratic nominee, but in a video posted
Tuesday on social media, the group’s co-founder, Lexi
Zeidan, outlined the reasons she thinks Trump would be
worse for the group’s anti-war agenda than Harris would
be."
..,................
Only one person detailed the reasons. Apparently it
was a group decision without formal endorsement.

If you want to live without laws and at the whim of
someone dedicated to letting Netanyahu and other
dictators go without restriction don't support Harris.
Let Netanyahu have his way with Gaza, Putin with the
Ukraine , Xi with Taiwan and the Ayatollah with Israel,
after those pesky Palestinians have been er, managed.

F*** wildlife, rights of women, federal parks and land,
air, water, land purity, and toss out the disabled,
elderly and homeless to experience Republican
healthcare, which is die quickly. Any hope of reform
will disappear with whistle blower protection, and all
work will be at the pleasure of the paymaster. The
earth and all its creatures will be doomed to the
oligarch greed.

You will live in the world you and others voted into
existence. I hope you all lose. If you don't, that
you come to realize in this lifetime what you have done
so if this species survives, thousands of years from
now when the planet may be habitable again, your
reincarnated self won't make the same mistake.









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442111


Date: October 09, 2024 at 05:31:21
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: that doesn't translate to votes


many Palestinian Americans are outraged. Some have lost family members,
friends to the US/Israel genocide. We'll just have to wait and see.
Harris indicates she isn't interested in a policy change, so just more of the
same.


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442118


Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:10:33
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes


there will be plenty of time to critique harris after she's elected...


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442121


Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:48:34
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: who are you kidding?


on your site criticism of a president Harris will be as vilified then as criticizing
biden or Harris has been around here for the past 3+ years. get real. try a little
more honesty.


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442123


Date: October 09, 2024 at 12:16:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding?


do you think he is really in denial that anyone criticizing a dem on this
board would be trolled and harassed including by him? nothing was
biden’s fault for the last 4 years and anyone who pointed out his
disastrous presidency was told that in harsh terms. if kamala wins nothing
will be her fault either


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442126


Date: October 09, 2024 at 12:22:15
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding?


You guys are hilarious...lol...

Republican policies are essentially exclusivist/Fascist,
have been for a very long time, only difference being
that now they're hauled more out of the woodwork by DJTs
farce of a presidency & worn as a badge of "honor,
courage, patriotism (lol!) by those who've been seduced
by the darkside...lol...

Only choice in this election is to vote against the GOP,
unless you want Fasicsm...

Any other words around this are all either irrelevant to
this, or intentional deflective spin from this all-
encompassing reality...

And yes. End of.


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442122


Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:49:53
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding?


project much?


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442135


Date: October 09, 2024 at 13:44:51
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: right, you've generously welcomed criticism of the Biden admin LOL


all along. you abhor trolls who limit free speech... LOL


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442137


Date: October 09, 2024 at 14:32:24
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: right, you've generously welcomed criticism of the Biden admin LOL


What exactly is it you're wanting to achieve here, akira?

It seems fairly obvious, I'm sure, to many observing...but
I'm wondering what *you're actually consciously
intending*...

I wonder if you even know, yourself...


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442114


Date: October 09, 2024 at 08:07:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes


When all is said and done, all your posted words this
morning considered, akira: A vote for anyone but Harris
is a vote for Trump. Nothing you can say will change
that. And any vote for Trump goes toward entirely
demolishing any hope for anything but Fascism here and,
yes, that is my focus.

I know it's not half as much fun as pretending you're an
accurate judge of people's character, here, in how they
address and come to terms with these complex, unbearably
horrific U.S.-involvement-in-atrocities issues, or don't
appear to, so you can feel justified in slinging around
all this casual judgemental indictment...so your role as
one of the few *apparent true defenders of humane
humanity on the planet* becomes more clear to
us...*wink*...but once again:

A vote for anyone but Harris is a vote for Trump.

End. Of. Story.

Should you choose not to vote, because you feel no
candidate is worthy of it, that's a different story.

And FWIW...I think you're going to find, at some point,
that saying *No* to everything that's so perversely wrong
in the world is far more swiftly transformed by finding
everything we can say *Yes* to...and putting 150% of all
we are behind them...and that includes all that's good
and whole within the soul of Democratic intention... No,
that can't grab the end of a gun before it kills
someone...but face it, you can't stop what's happening in
Gaza anymore than any of us can...


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442113


Date: October 09, 2024 at 07:09:02
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes




At least some realize the situation could be worse,
although it's horrid enough.

The idea that so many have died for Trump Gaza and the
Netanyahu Grand Hotel is beyond words. I, for one,
even having considered the possibility, am horrified at
the cost and reality.

The veracity of true intent will be seen when the
shooting stops. Do they make it a habitable area for
the people or turn it into another playground for the
wealthy?

Too bad it doesn't translate to votes. Why reward
Trump?


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442083


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:40:54
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock step


& neither do I. Your headline is deliberately misleading. That's 1 person. You
conveniently ignore all of the horrendous decisions and actions of the Biden
administration throughout the year. "But Trump will be worse" is a
weak & disturbingly dishonest response.

Israel's year-long genocidal campaign would have been impossible without the
enduring, expensive, illegal, immoral support of the Biden/Harris administration.
As long as Harris continues to indicate she'll follow the same path, I have no
plan to support her.


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442085


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:44:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock...


and you're one person...


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442087


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:47:52
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in...


perceptive you are!


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442088


Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:49:26
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in...


i didn't fall out of a coconut tree...


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