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Date: October 08, 2024 at 13:07:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I really wanted to vote for her ... |
URL: https://x.com/LaraFriedmanDC |
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and was hopeful for a moment.
Vice President Kamala Harris:
"The people of Lebanon are facing an increasingly dire humanitarian situation. I am concerned about the security and well-being of civilians suffering in Lebanon and will continue working to help meet the needs of all civilians there.
To that end, the United States will provide nearly $157 million in additional assistance to the people of Lebanon for essential needs such as food, shelter, water, protection, and sanitation to help those who have been displaced by the recent conflict. This additional support brings total U.S. assistance to Lebanon over the last year to over $385 million." 7:37 PM · Oct 5, 2024
President, Foundation for Middle East Peace, Lara Friedman:
"This statement, delivered literally at the exact moment when Israel is massively bombing Beirut with US supplied bombs, causing mass destruction-terror- displacement-injuries-death among Lebanese, Palestinian refugees & Syrian refugees, is a truly obscene level of gaslighting."

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Date: October 08, 2024 at 21:35:29
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so we provide the bombs and provide rebuilding again? |
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:03:33
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I really wanted / Pro-Palestinians back Harris over Trump |
URL: https://thehill.com/policy/international/4922430-uncommitted-group-back-harris/ |
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"As a Palestinian American,” she said in the video, “the current administration’s handling of this genocide has been beyond enraging and demoralizing, but the reality is that it can get worse.”
“Nobody wants a Trump presidency more than Netanyahu because that is his ticket to wiping Palestine off the map,” Zeidan said about the embattled right-wing prime minister in Israel.
Zeidan said Project 2025 proposes cuts to humanitarian aid to the West Bank and Gaza, which she said described as “effectively closing off not just the meager resources getting in, but one of the only points of contact Gaza has with the outside world.”
She also suggested a future Trump presidency could result in the displacement of the Palestinian people from the territories and deliver on “massively expanding settlements.” At home, she said, Project 2025 would crack down on pro-Palestinian protests
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:41:26
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock step |
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& neither do I. Your headline is deliberately misleading. That's 1 person. You conveniently ignore all of the horrendous decisions and actions of the Biden administration throughout the year. "But Trump will be worse" is a weak & disturbingly dishonest response.
Israel's year-long genocidal campaign would have been impossible without the enduring, expensive, illegal, immoral support of the Biden/Harris administration. As long as Harris continues to indicate she'll follow the same path, I have no plan to support her.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 05:35:12
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the disconnect is palpable |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/55816.html |
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There's so much concern about the US losing its democracy with another trump presidency. I'm not attempting to minimize the threat, but I find it interesting that the same folks here terrified by that prospect express zero concern and outrage for our country's continuous participation in a now year- long ethnic cleansing campaign which has now killed over 41,000, mostly women & children. Israel is literally targeting refugee camps and has only amped up its slaughter in Gaza, not to mention Lebanon.
The disconnect is palpable. You demand democracy at home, while supporting suppression and genocide outside your safe and secure borders.
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 18:50:59
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock... |
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"But Trump will be worse"
Is all that matters... dear.
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 17:30:30
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock... |
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So you didn't visit the link... more from there: ..............
"The “Uncommitted” National Movement – a pro- Palestinian political group opposing the Biden administration’s support for Israel – encouraged its followers to back Vice President Harris’s presidential bid over former President Trump’s, less than one month ahead of Election Day.
The group stopped short of issuing a formal endorsement of the Democratic nominee, but in a video posted Tuesday on social media, the group’s co-founder, Lexi Zeidan, outlined the reasons she thinks Trump would be worse for the group’s anti-war agenda than Harris would be." ..,................ Only one person detailed the reasons. Apparently it was a group decision without formal endorsement.
If you want to live without laws and at the whim of someone dedicated to letting Netanyahu and other dictators go without restriction don't support Harris. Let Netanyahu have his way with Gaza, Putin with the Ukraine , Xi with Taiwan and the Ayatollah with Israel, after those pesky Palestinians have been er, managed.
F*** wildlife, rights of women, federal parks and land, air, water, land purity, and toss out the disabled, elderly and homeless to experience Republican healthcare, which is die quickly. Any hope of reform will disappear with whistle blower protection, and all work will be at the pleasure of the paymaster. The earth and all its creatures will be doomed to the oligarch greed.
You will live in the world you and others voted into existence. I hope you all lose. If you don't, that you come to realize in this lifetime what you have done so if this species survives, thousands of years from now when the planet may be habitable again, your reincarnated self won't make the same mistake.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 05:31:21
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: that doesn't translate to votes |
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many Palestinian Americans are outraged. Some have lost family members, friends to the US/Israel genocide. We'll just have to wait and see. Harris indicates she isn't interested in a policy change, so just more of the same.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:10:33
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes |
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there will be plenty of time to critique harris after she's elected...
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:48:34
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: who are you kidding? |
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on your site criticism of a president Harris will be as vilified then as criticizing biden or Harris has been around here for the past 3+ years. get real. try a little more honesty.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 12:16:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding? |
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do you think he is really in denial that anyone criticizing a dem on this board would be trolled and harassed including by him? nothing was biden’s fault for the last 4 years and anyone who pointed out his disastrous presidency was told that in harsh terms. if kamala wins nothing will be her fault either
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 12:22:15
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding? |
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You guys are hilarious...lol...
Republican policies are essentially exclusivist/Fascist, have been for a very long time, only difference being that now they're hauled more out of the woodwork by DJTs farce of a presidency & worn as a badge of "honor, courage, patriotism (lol!) by those who've been seduced by the darkside...lol...
Only choice in this election is to vote against the GOP, unless you want Fasicsm...
Any other words around this are all either irrelevant to this, or intentional deflective spin from this all- encompassing reality...
And yes. End of.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 11:49:53
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: who are you kidding? |
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 13:44:51
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: right, you've generously welcomed criticism of the Biden admin LOL |
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all along. you abhor trolls who limit free speech... LOL
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 14:32:24
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: right, you've generously welcomed criticism of the Biden admin LOL |
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What exactly is it you're wanting to achieve here, akira?
It seems fairly obvious, I'm sure, to many observing...but I'm wondering what *you're actually consciously intending*...
I wonder if you even know, yourself...
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 08:07:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes |
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When all is said and done, all your posted words this morning considered, akira: A vote for anyone but Harris is a vote for Trump. Nothing you can say will change that. And any vote for Trump goes toward entirely demolishing any hope for anything but Fascism here and, yes, that is my focus.
I know it's not half as much fun as pretending you're an accurate judge of people's character, here, in how they address and come to terms with these complex, unbearably horrific U.S.-involvement-in-atrocities issues, or don't appear to, so you can feel justified in slinging around all this casual judgemental indictment...so your role as one of the few *apparent true defenders of humane humanity on the planet* becomes more clear to us...*wink*...but once again:
A vote for anyone but Harris is a vote for Trump.
End. Of. Story.
Should you choose not to vote, because you feel no candidate is worthy of it, that's a different story.
And FWIW...I think you're going to find, at some point, that saying *No* to everything that's so perversely wrong in the world is far more swiftly transformed by finding everything we can say *Yes* to...and putting 150% of all we are behind them...and that includes all that's good and whole within the soul of Democratic intention... No, that can't grab the end of a gun before it kills someone...but face it, you can't stop what's happening in Gaza anymore than any of us can...
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 07:09:02
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that doesn't translate to votes |
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At least some realize the situation could be worse, although it's horrid enough.
The idea that so many have died for Trump Gaza and the Netanyahu Grand Hotel is beyond words. I, for one, even having considered the possibility, am horrified at the cost and reality.
The veracity of true intent will be seen when the shooting stops. Do they make it a habitable area for the people or turn it into another playground for the wealthy?
Too bad it doesn't translate to votes. Why reward Trump?
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:40:54
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock step |
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& neither do I. Your headline is deliberately misleading. That's 1 person. You conveniently ignore all of the horrendous decisions and actions of the Biden administration throughout the year. "But Trump will be worse" is a weak & disturbingly dishonest response.
Israel's year-long genocidal campaign would have been impossible without the enduring, expensive, illegal, immoral support of the Biden/Harris administration. As long as Harris continues to indicate she'll follow the same path, I have no plan to support her.
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:44:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in lock... |
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:47:52
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in... |
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:49:26
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: American Palestinians &Palestinians supporters don't vote in... |
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i didn't fall out of a coconut tree...
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