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Date: October 07, 2024 at 10:06:15
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
URL: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein
BY JULIA MUELLER - 10/07/24 12:06 PM ET
The “Abandon Harris” group pushing for voters to protest Vice President
Harris over the conflict in Gaza is endorsing the Green Party’s Jill Stein in
the presidential race.
The group, formerly known as “Abandon Biden,” is calling on Muslim
Americans and others frustrated with the Biden administration’s handling
of the Israel-Hamas war to cast their ballots for the long-shot third-party
bid.
“Our movement remains dedicated to ensuring that the American people,
especially the Muslim-American community, recognize the responsibility
we share in standing up against oppression and using all our power to
stop genocide — wherever it may arise. On the precipice of the election,
we endorse Jill Stein,” the group said in a release.
Stein, who also ran for the White House in 2012 and 2016, has little
chance of being truly competitive this fall. She’s not on the ballot or
lodging a write-in campaign in a dozen states, according to a tracker from
her campaign, and a recent New York Times/Siena College survey of a
handful of key battlegrounds had her polling at just 1 percent.
But her candidacy could act as a potential spoiler to Harris’s fast-tracked
bid amid a tight race between the vice president and former President
Trump, drawing votes in vital swing states where the two major party
candidates are separated by a hair.
Democrats have long been frustrated by the Green Party, and Stein was
seen as something of a spoiler to former Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton’s 2016 campaign against Trump.
A similar protest group, the Uncommitted National Movement, said last
month that it wouldn’t endorse either Harris or Trump, but recommended
against a third-party vote, noting that third-party votes in critical swing
states could “inadvertently” boost Trump.
Trump has the edge over Harris among Arab Americans, according to
recent data from the Arab American Institute, and the vice president faces
growing signs that the demographic is souring on her in critical
battlegrounds.
The Abandon Harris endorsement of Stein comes on the first anniversary
of the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attacks on Israel, which kick-started the
ongoing conflict. The group initially sought to protest President Biden in
the Democratic presidential primaries and has since shifted to urge voters
against Harris.
In the race between Trump and Harris, the group said it’s “confronting two
destructive forces: one currently overseeing a genocide and another
equally committed to continuing it.”
Stein has said she would end all military support to Israel if elected. Harris
and Biden have both offered unwavering support for Israel but
underscored the suffering in Gaza.
“It is far past time for a hostage and ceasefire deal to end the suffering of
innocent people,” Harris said in a statement marking the anniversary.
“And I will always fight for the Palestinian people to be able to realize their
right to dignity, freedom, security, and self-determination.”
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 10:28:31
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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Read: Throwaway vote.
End of.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 10:26:33
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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Gee, I wonder who that group is backing lol. Does anyone
think their money actually comes from Stein?
This is another diversion.
Stein has no shot at winning, and has been involved with
Putin in the past..had dinner with him, she did.
This is OT attempting to do the "dear leaders" work for
him again.
Don't buy it.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 10:44:34
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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you don’t buy it? isn’t the hill considered a reliable source?
and what the hell does it mean when you say stein had dinner in the past
with putin? he’s been russia’s leader since 1999 so i’m sure a hell of a lot
of people have met with him over dinner. is it really necessary to smear jill
stein when she has zero chance of winning?
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 10:53:20
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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Yes, to push back on your assertions and spins
regardless of where they come from.
To remind people that she's not a viable option.
To remind people that she's had dirty hands in the past.
To remind people that this is a common last ditch effort
to people votes off using 3rd parties.
It's an old political strategy you're pushing here with
your article.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 11:04:02
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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hate to tell you red but if you want to push back on a news article from the
hill you may want to find a bigger audience than this place lol
look do you really think a group that labels themselves “abandon harris”
doesn’t realize stein has no chance of winning?
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 12:51:07
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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I think they are supported by Maga groups and his donors
(with possible help from Russian troll farms) to try a
desperate attempt to peel off voters.
That is what I think.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 13:15:32
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
URL: https://abandonharris.com/about/ |
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so what your saying is you know nothing about the abandon harris group
but keep responding anyway? lol
here let me help
About Abandon Harris
The Abandon Harris Campaign (formerly the Abandon Biden Campaign)
seeks to empower people of conscience to leverage their vote for the US
presidency and, consequently, effect moral change in the United States
and around the world. The campaign seeks to unite and mobilize all
people of conscience to forge a national movement built around
grassroots organizing, political lobbying, public advocacy, and voter
mobilization to effectively transform people of conscience resisting
genocide as a powerful voting block that cannot be ignored.
Before being rebranded the Abandon Harris Campaign, the Abandon
Biden campaign was initiated when Joe Biden refused to call for a
ceasefire in Gaza. Biden was given till October 31, 2023, to call for a
permanent ceasefire. When Biden did not call for a ceasefire, on
November 1, 2023 – on “Ceasefire Deadline Day” – people of conscience
vowed to never vote for Biden and to actively campaign against him. Due
to Joe Biden’s immoral position on Gaza, American leaders in pivotal
swing states – Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida,
Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and North Carolina – have pledged to rally their
communities against President Biden’s bid for re-election. When Kamala
Harris became the presumptive nominee on July 21, the Abandon Harris
Campaign came out on July 22, issuing a policy ultimatum to Vice
President Kamala Harris. The Abandon Harris Campaign made two
demands: a permanent and unconditional ceasefire consistent with the
International Court of Justice and a full arms embargo against the state of
Israel. The media took the demands of the Abandon Biden Campaign to
the Harris campaign, and they refused to engage with the Abandon Biden
Campaign. After one month, it became clear that Harris was no different
from Biden, seeking to preserve the military dominance of Israel and
denying the genocide in Gaza. On August 19, 2024, Abandon Biden
became the Abandon Harris Campaign- a campaign now seeking to
ensure the defeat of Kamala Harris at the ballot box. Across the nation,
Americans have committed not to vote for Harris and to actively campaign
against him. The Abandon Harris campaign’s goal is to ensure that Kamala
Harris loses the swing states.
The Abandon Harris strategy is for people of conscience to punish Kamala
Harris at the ballot box and then take the “blame”—or claim the credit—for
her electoral defeat. Punishing the vice-president for her genocide would
send a clear signal to the political landscape that genocide is not
politically viable. It would create a political earthquake, soliciting a
reckoning in the political parties.
People of conscience are powerful. This is a historic moment for
Americans—a moment to take responsibility and ensure government
accountability. This is a moment for unity and transformational action as
communities across the nation come together to shape the future of the
United States.
The tensions between campaign’s leaders and Harris remained effective
as the vice president did not fully agree with the committee’s demands.
The leaders are not ready to accept the shallow calls of while the
authorities continue to send weapons and grants to endorse waging war
against innocent civilians in Gaza. According to a press release reported
by Fox News, words without meaningful actions are meaningless, and
compliance in this cruelty will not be allowed. Across the nation,
Americans have committed not to vote for Harris and to actively campaign
against her. The Abandon Harris campaign’s goal is to ensure that Kamala
Harris loses the swing states.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:54:32
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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Who benefits ?!???!
It's Putin propaganda b.s. to elect *rump.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 16:02:27
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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if you are going for the conspiracy theory wouldn’t it make more sense to
claim they are iran’s propaganda? after all their main focus is on the
genocide in gaza and they seem to be mostly arab americans
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 12:25:14
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon Harris campaign endorses Jill Stein |
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could be all of them. Trump hasn't made a lot of friends
and allies (not true ones. Putin will throw him under
the bus as soon as he's no longer any use to him).
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 13:47:34
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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not only that, I don't care about the group. It's of no
import to the larger picture.
You're going to push it because you would really LIKE
to peel off Harris votes. She's apparently so much more
a greater threat to Trump than he (or you) wanted.
You will continue to keep repeating the name as a
strategy to get it out there (when it's really a ruse)
because that's what you do (or were asked to do).
We kinda see how you operate ..and you're a blank with
no location, place, status, resident, family or
anything else..just a conduit for what you appear to be
asked to push from the daily talking point sheet.
It's a red herring bs strategy thing just like the RFK
jr. candidacy was. And, as always, you're here to push
it.
Also, since RFKjr is still unable to get off ballots,
he'll actually hurt Trump now.
Another failed strategy.
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 14:30:30
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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you don’t know or care about the group abandon harris, but you’ve
already posted 4 times??? and you change the subject title in my honor?
sounds an awful lot like trolling red
let me give you a clue, the things i post from the hill or politico or nyt or
bbc are being seen by thousands and possibly millions of people already.
my posting them here on this small forum where most members left years
ago because of the trolling isn’t really raising the visibility of these daily
news stories. what gets posted here isn’t going to change the election
one way or the other
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 14:38:15
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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you sound more like you're trolling dude...try to stay on topic...national issues...
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 14:45:47
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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national issues? you mean like the article i posted?
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:27:46
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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the article was alright...giving redhart shit was not on topic...
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:54:43
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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are you saying my giving red shit for her many trolling, off topic responses
was off topic? don’t you think if she wasn’t trolling me so much it would
be better for everyone? hell she even changed the subject of this thread in
my honor she’s trolling so hard! lol
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 16:00:41
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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that's exactly what i'm saying...knock it off!
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 14:37:22
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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maybe most have left, but the stats show 10,000+ unique visitors in the last week...a small amount but not insignificant..way up from the normal 3500 or so per month, not sure why...most are from the us, but the next two highest numbers are from lithuania and then iran...hmmmm...
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 12:27:22
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:07:53
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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seems strange, wonder if some of the pro violence language has gotten
this place flagged?
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:28:35
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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yeah, perhaps you should tone down your rhetoric...
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Date: October 07, 2024 at 15:00:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Abandon OT campaign endorsed |
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I can’t help but wonder whether that gives anyone here *pause*…
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