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Date: October 03, 2024 at 12:21:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
URL: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign.
Key members of Harris’ circle weren’t aware of some of Walz’s inaccurate
statements until they became public, despite the vetting process.
By Meredith Lee Hill and Mia McCarthy
10/03/2024 02:08 PM EDT
Tim Walz has a problem misspeaking.
Since being tapped as Kamala Harris’ running mate, the folksy, plain-
speaking Minnesota governor has had to explain a growing number of
inaccurate statements — and at times embellishments — about his past.
They range from comments about his military service to his visit to Hong
Kong more than three decades ago to clarifying that his family didn’t
specifically use in vitro fertilization.
It’s unclear whether Walz’s verbal errors will undercut his credibility with
voters. But the need to continually clean up those claims could politically
hurt Walz and Harris, who are locked in a tight race with Donald Trump
and JD Vance. And in some cases, key members of Harris’ circle weren’t
aware of some of the inaccurate statements until they became public
despite the vetting process, according to four people familiar with the
conversations who were granted anonymity to discuss the matter.
“Any time you are forced to go off message is never welcome,” said Mike
Mikus, a Democratic strategist in Pennsylvania. “But in the end, voters are
looking for somebody who is more concerned about what these
candidates are going to do to improve their lives than, ‘Did he get every
single fact correct?’”
The most recent example came Tuesday, when a CBS debate moderator
pressed Walz over his claim that he had been in Hong Kong during the
Tiananmen Square protests in 1989, when Hong Kong was still under
British rule (Hong Kong returned to Chinese rule in 1997). Walz over the
years had said publicly he had been in Hong Kong during the crackdown in
Beijing, including 10 years ago in Congress.
But on Tuesday during the debate, he awkwardly responded that “all I said
on this was, is, I got there that summer,” and “I’m a knucklehead at times”
before conceding he “misspoke.”
On Wednesday, Walz sought to clean up his debate comments during a
campaign stop in the battleground state of Pennsylvania, where polling
shows Harris and Trump virtually tied.
“Yeah, look, I have my dates wrong,” Walz told reporters in Harrisburg. “I
was in Hong Kong in China in 1989. … I speak like everybody else speaks. I
need to be clearer.”
Candidates running for higher office have long embellished their records
or personal histories. President Joe Biden had long been known to
overstate even minor details of his personal life, like his academic
achievements. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) in 2010 had to explain
why he misstated his military record when he claimed he served in
Vietnam when he in fact served in the Marine Corps Reserves during the
Vietnam War — but stateside. Former Rep. George Santos is well known
for lying about a number of things, including that his mother was killed in
the 9/11 attacks
Walz’s misstatements could contradict the image that the campaign has
painted of him as an upstanding, everyday Midwest guy.
“He’s just honest,” Bob Frisby, 70, who lives in Rochester, Minnesota,
recalled of Walz in an interview shortly after Harris tapped the governor
as her running mate.
One of the earliest claims that came under scrutiny during the presidential
campaign centered on Walz’s military record. Walz has repeatedly and
inaccurately described himself as a “retired command sergeant major”
including in radio ads from his very first congressional bid. But he never
finished the final coursework to retire at such a rank. The Harris campaign
quietly changed its website description, after questions from reporters, to
say Walz once served at the command sergeant major rank.
In 2018 while campaigning for governor, he stated that he didn’t want
“those weapons of war, that I carried in war” accessible to everyday
Americans during a discussion about why he was reversing his position
from his congressional days to support an assault weapons ban, giving
the incorrect impression that he served in combat. Harris’ campaign later
said he “misspoke.”
He also drew criticism for using his family’s struggles with fertility during
the campaign as a way to highlight his stance on reproductive rights, a
key issue during the campaign. He even attacked Vance over it, saying, “if
it was up to him, I wouldn’t have a family because of IVF.” The Harris
campaign had to clarify that Walz and his wife, Gwen, didn’t specifically
use in vitro fertilization, but another similar treatment that Republicans
haven’t talked about banning.
Walz himself raised some of these issues with Harris and her team during
the vice presidential vetting process, according to two people familiar
with the conversations. Harris’ circle, for example, knew of Walz’s 1995
DUI arrest when he was a school teacher in Nebraska, despite Walz’s past
campaign and official staff trying to downplay and in some cases outright
mislead reporters about the circumstances of the arrest.
Harris’ vetting team called some of Walz’s former House colleagues and
other allies to check out that episode, his drinking habits and
temperament since then, according to two other people familiar with the
calls at the time.
“As the governor has said, he sometimes misspeaks. He speaks like a
normal person and speaks passionately about issues he cares deeply
about including democracy and stopping gun violence in our school,” a
spokesperson for the Harris-Walz campaign said, adding Trump and
Vance “repeatedly lie and mislead about their plan to ban abortion
nationwide” and other topics.
Democrats in recent weeks have had to downplay and defend some of
Walz’s past inaccurate comments, including about his military rank.
Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker classified the comments as Walz “misspeaking
on occasion” over the course of his career.
“You can pick and choose the things that you want you know over
somebody’s entire career and call it out,” Pritzker told reporters, adding
that “JD Vance is lying every day.”
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 12:56:34
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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"JD Vance is lying every day.”
You missed that part?
LOL
Yeah, I agree with ao...time for a "go fish" dude.
You are failing bigly at trying to make something out
of it, and only calling attention to the big, whopping,
massive lies The trump team tells every time they open
their mouths about every-freaking-thing.
You appear to now be just trolling.
so..
🎣
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 13:13:53
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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sure i saw another democrat quoted as saying that. unlike you i don't cut
out parts of articles that don’t support my position
and instead of “go fish” how about not responding if you have nothing to
say?
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 14:11:33
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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I did, several times.
You just are fishing for some other answer that you're
not going to get. You got push back and how focusing on
a mismemory led back to big whopping liar trump in
comparison.
You seem to want someone to beat up on America's dad
with you, not talk about actual concerns.
So, go fish again.
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 15:32:39
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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“You seem to want someone to beat up on America's dad with you, not
talk about actual concerns.”
what the hell are you talking about? you think knucklehead walz is
america’s dad???
look the vice presidential debate was 2 days ago and the media is still
talking about how walz shit the bed. this thread was top of politico’s page
this afternoon. but instead of discussing the topic you say i’m fishing and
want to beat up on someone and tell me to go fish!
did you ever consider i’m just sharing mainstream media articles about
the political hot topic of today that others on this board would never, ever
share?
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 16:02:16
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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I think Walz is much closer to America's Dad than
Trump, who is America's anti-christ. lol
You know exactly what I'm talking about, you just don't
want to talk about what heinous things Trump is saying
and doing in comparison to the little nit-pick BS
you're posting about.
No, only the right wing media like Daily Mail and
Bannon's shit, who are all in the tank with propaganda
for Trump and have no problem lying right a long with
him.
You want to talk about a hot topic? Go back and check
out the thread on Jack Smith's unsealed new indictments
about how Trump lied, cheated and was a traitor to his
own country in the last election...and ramping up to do
the same on steroids this time.
Now there's some real stuff. Not this non-consequential
bs you seem intent on trying to push.
How can anyone even consider voting for Trump, this
horrible excuse for a human being?
Are you ever even going to address any of the Trump
nasty, illegal and traitorous behavior on here? Ever?
Are you not allowed to speak his name? Given
instructions to keep the focus on anything else?
Because that's what it looks like from here.
Now there's some real stuff.
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 16:29:19
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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red this board is constantly flooded with anti-trump and anti-gop shit. hell
if the republican dog catcher in bumbfuck north dakota kicked a dog
someone will post here about it. but as paul harvey used to say, and now
for the rest of the story, i share the other side. since walz shit the bed in
the debate there have been hundreds of articles about it but if i didn’t
post articles about it you know damn well no one else would
what’s wrong with that? why shouldn’t i be able to share articles that you
yellow dog democrats would never share but are legitimate news?
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 00:07:00
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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legitimate news doesn't have spin...
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 07:50:58
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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what spin? politico wrote this article about walz constant lying, they even
called his lies “a tendency to misspeak” and then looked at how this might
impact the election. it was a pretty damn typical political article and if
anything had a left point of view. walz shit the bed at the debate
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 09:02:20
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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“walz shit the bed at the debate”
Reminds me of Karen’s face diapers.. both of which paints a stinky
picture of the speaker...
It don’t matter how many times you say it it just make you the one
covered in shit.. pilau brah.
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 09:26:00
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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why always make things personal?
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 09:37:47
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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Stop whining OT. You make posts and others respond. You posted
that’s my response. It’s what came to mind. If you don’t like it stop
posting.
But dude, you have to admit, that line stuck to you way more than anyone
else. Pilau brah.
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 09:44:55
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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the only thing that comes to mind is to go after me personally?? have you
ever considered respecting bopp’s rules of staying on topic and not
making things personal? those rules worked well until you showed up here
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 09:49:08
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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Date: October 04, 2024 at 00:04:06
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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“what’s wrong with that?”
You whining about it?
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Date: October 03, 2024 at 18:22:33
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tim Walz has a tendency to misspeak. It may haunt the campaign. |
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"Why shouldn’t i be able to share articles that you
yellow dog democrats would never share but are legitimate
news?"
Who says you shouldn't, OT?
Of course you can! lol You just have to accept the need
to be prepared for the backlash you'll get to their BS!
No worries! Who's stopping you?
Or...could it be you're just tired of having all the GOP
"points" shot out of the sky like the BS they are?
Nah...that's not it...lol...
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