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Date: September 28, 2024 at 15:17:31
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on Immigra |
URL: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on Immigration |
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look who finally made it to the border, and talking tough about securing our border too! does this flip flop mean she realized her previous position was wrong? or is she just saying what the voters want to hear?
Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on Immigration
Vowing to carry on President Biden’s crackdown on asylum and to impose order on the southern border, the vice president demonstrated how much the politics of immigration have changed.
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Nicholas NehamasHamed AleazizReid J. Epstein By Nicholas NehamasHamed Aleaziz and Reid J. Epstein
Nicholas Nehamas reported from Douglas, Ariz., and Hamed Aleaziz and Reid J. Epstein from Washington.
Published Sept. 27, 2024 Updated Sept. 28, 2024, 2:40 p.m. ET
On her first trip to the southern border as the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris delivered one of her party’s toughest speeches on immigration and border policy in a generation. Even as she did, she tried to paint former President Donald J. Trump as a feckless chaos agent without the ability to deliver the hard-line results he has promised.
Ms. Harris vowed to carry on President Biden’s crackdown on asylum and to impose order on the southern border, demonstrating how much the politics of immigration have shifted for Democrats. Just one presidential cycle ago, Ms. Harris and most other candidates in the party’s primary race had promised to decriminalize illegal border crossings.
Ms. Harris’s remarks on Friday in the border town of Douglas, Ariz., laid out a vision that makes clear that her party — and the nation — continue to back away from the long-held American promise of protection to desperate people fleeing poverty and violence abroad no matter how they enter the United States.
“The United States is a sovereign nation, and I believe we have a duty to set rules at our border and to enforce them,” Ms. Harris said. “I take that responsibility very seriously.” ADVERTISEMENT SKIP ADVERTISEMENT
In political terms, her visit to Arizona — a critical battleground state where she narrowly trails Mr. Trump in polls — represented an attempt to toughen her image on immigration, an issue on which surveys show that many voters favor the former president.
On Friday, she spoke at a community college on a stage adorned with signs that read “Border Security and Stability.” Before her speech, she visited U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s port of entry in Douglas, walking along a section of border wall that the Obama administration built in 2012. Border agents also briefed her on efforts to stop fentanyl smuggling.
Ms. Harris had visited the border only once before as vice president, in 2021.
On this trip, she made clear that she would continue to embrace Mr. Biden’s executive order in June to ban asylum for those who cross illegally, regardless of what happens with a bipartisan immigration bill that she has largely focused on in previous speeches. The bill included similar restrictions on asylum, but it has remained stalled in Congress. Mr. Trump persuaded Republicans in the Senate to scuttle the bill this year, a point Ms. Harris often makes on the campaign trail, accusing him of prioritizing politics over good policy.
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“He did not solve the shortage of immigration judges,” she said. “He did not solve the shortage of border agents. He did not create lawful pathways into our nation. He did nothing to address an outdated asylum system.” And she condemned the policies he did embrace, saying that his family separation policy “ripped toddlers out of their mothers’ arms” and “put children in cages.”
Still, Ms. Harris also used her visit to emphasize a need for a comprehensive immigration overhaul. Throughout the campaign, she has tried to strike a balance between enforcement and upholding the nation’s history of welcoming immigrants.
“We must reform our immigration system to ensure that it works in an orderly way, that it is humane and that it makes our country stronger,” she said in Douglas as she called for legal pathways for citizenship for undocumented immigrants living in the United States, including farmworkers and the group of Americans known as Dreamers, who were brought to the country illegally as children.
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Ms. Harris’s trip to the border underscored how much the situation has changed there, as a decrease in crossings made her visit politically possible. The number of border arrests peaked in December, when around 250,000 apprehensions were made. Since June, when Mr. Biden issued his order, the administration has seen some of the lowest arrest figures of the last few years. In July, 56,000 arrests were made. In August, it was more than 58,000, and September appears on track for similar figures.
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 15:25:10
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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isn't that what you wanted? you should be happy, not disparaging...
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 16:00:21
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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when someone flip flops as much as she does it will always be a question if she finally understands the issue or is just saying things for votes
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Date: September 30, 2024 at 00:47:53
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
URL: https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/vance-criticized-an-infrastructure-law-as-a-19802960.php |
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Vance criticized an infrastructure law as a candidate then embraced it as a senator By BRIAN SLODYSKO, Associated Press Sep 29, 2024
WASHINGTON (AP) — As he campaigned for the Senate two years ago, JD Vance harshly criticized a bipartisan 2021 law to invest more than $1 trillion in America’s crumbling infrastructure, calling it a “huge mistake” shaped by Democrats who want to spend big taxpayer dollars on “really crazy stuff.”
That hasn’t stopped the first-term Ohio senator and Republican vice-presidential nominee from seeking more than $200 million in federal money made available through the law for projects across his state, according to records reviewed by The Associated Press.
Vance is hardly alone among Republicans who have condemned spending enacted under Democratic President Joe Biden, only to later reap the benefit when government funds flow to popular projects back home. In this case, he also was criticizing the achievement of one of the bill’s authors — former Sen. Rob Portman, the Ohio Republican he succeeded.
“I believe you should campaign how you govern so that you are consistent in your message and voters know what they are going to get,” said Ohio state Sen. Matt Dolan, one of Vance's 2022 Republican primary rivals, who was the only GOP candidate to support the bill.
Parker Magid, a spokesperson for Vance said, “Senators are elected by their constituents to fight for them in Washington, regardless of the party in charge. The fact is that this bill was a wish list of destructive Biden-Harris policy proposals and over 1,000 pages long, but as his constituents expect of him, Senator Vance successfully advocated for full and fair consideration of legitimate expenditures on Ohio projects by the federal government.”
To the man Vance defeated in the general election, former Democratic congressman Tim Ryan, Vance's pivot “fits the general pattern of him being two-faced on just about everything.”
"Look at the Trump stuff," Ryan said. “He was ‘America’s Hitler'" in Vance's estimation, ”then when it didn’t benefit him anymore to have that view, he changed it.”
Trump had vowed to pass an infrastructure bill when he was president, but did not offer a plan, and “Infrastructure Week” became something of a punch line.
That changed after Biden became president. A bipartisan group of senators including Portman and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, then a Democrat, hashed out a roughly $1 trillion package that passed with 19 Republicans joining Democrats.
Vance criticized the bill as a boondoggle tainted by Democrats’ preoccupation with racial justice.
“I’m reading through this new infrastructure bill, and it includes all these ridiculous references to things called transportation equity, which is basically just importing critical race theory into our nation’s infrastructure programs,” Vance tweeted in August 2021. “It’s totally ridiculous and it’s obvious that Republicans have been had in supporting this bill.”
During a September 2021 interview with CBS News, Vance said that the “mistake that Republicans have recently made on bipartisanship is that we gave Democrats a huge win.”
“We do have infrastructure problems, but I don’t think this bill actually spends the money on the things that we need,” he said of the legislation, which Trump opposed.
Portman, who cited “partisan gridlock” as a reason he retired from the Senate, was unavailable for comment.
After taking office in January 2023, Vance appears to have warmed to the legislation his predecessor helped write — though not publicly.
In 10 letters addressed to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg that were sent between 2023 and 2024, Vance requested more than $213 million made available through the law for Ohio projects, according to copies of his correspondence obtained by the AP. At least four of those projects were approved and are slated to get about $130 million, federal records show.
Toledo received nearly $20 million to revitalize a majority Black area that was isolated from the city’s downtown when Interstate 75 was built in the 1960s. Toledo officials described the planning decision behind the location of the freeway as “discriminatory” in their federal application for the funding.
“These once-thriving communities now suffer from some of the city’s highest rates of poverty, unemployment, and blight," the application states. “Historically, this majority-Black area has been disproportionately impacted by harmful transportation policy decisions.” The application said those policies “caused displacement from which the area has never fully recovered.”
Vance had previously mocked a journalist who asked Buttigieg about bias that went into decades-old planning decisions. “Nothing in our country works,” he tweeted in November 2021. “And our reporters ask about the racism of our roads?”
As a senator he wrote that the project in Toledo had potentially “far-reaching” benefits, though he did include a disclaimer that he opposed “the Biden Administration’s emphasis on diversity, equity, and inclusion over outcomes of meaningful infrastructure improvements."
In another instance, Vance sought $29 million for low or no emissions buses. Vance has repeatedly railed against Democratic efforts to reduce emissions. In a recent opinion article in The Wall Street Journal, he singled out Vice President Kamala Harris and the Biden administration's support for zero-emission efforts, arguing that they were “stifling investment in the coal, natural gas, and nuclear plants that Americans rely on.”
Dolan, Vance's 2022 primary rival, said he's glad the senator seems to have changed his mind about the bill.
“The talking points during a campaign sometimes don't match the responsibility of governing," Dolan said. “I think the two should be indistinguishable. That's what it means to be a public servant."
He said if lawmakers were to "reject those dollars for political reasons, Ohio would suffer.”
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 19:02:09
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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flip flop?
How about Trump...he flip flopped to a whole new party and changed everything he used to claim to believe.
I'm sorry, it's hard to take that claim serious.
People change their views all the time with age and experience, and the world situation.
I know I have over the years. Have you? Or are you stuck in 1980 and all your views are the same? Or has watching history unfold and having real life experiences changed how you may look at things?
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 17:05:40
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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Projecting again. It's fun ain't it? Watching Trump say Hillary this or Biden that and then when it all comes out in the wash it turns out that's what he was doing. Over and over. And his adoring fans think it's a way of life..
Good luck with that OT.
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 16:11:57
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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OMG... and the alternative is the flipflopper in chief, famous for taking five different positions on one issue in five different stops in one day.
Thanks for the giggle.
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 16:23:41
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harris, at the Border, Shows Democrats’ Hard-Line Evolution on... |
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