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Date: September 17, 2024 at 09:52:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down rhetoric |
URL: https://www.rawstory.com/brazen-gaslighting-j-d-vance-slammed-for-telling-dems-tone-down-the-rhetoric/ |
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...lololololol... (I laugh because...oh I must...) The
dripping-bloody irony, here... He who leans into and
relies upon bullshit racist propaganda...telling
Democrats to "tone it down" and not to...what?...tell the
truth??? ...lololololol...!!!
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Ohio Republican U.S. Senator J.D. Vance published a 1203-
word diatribe Monday night filled with falsehoods and
feeble hypocrisies, demanding that Democrats "tone down
the rhetoric" while insisting he opposes "censorship."
Critics are accusing the GOP vice presidential nominee of
hypocrisy and gaslighting the public, given his and his
running mate's lies about Haitian immigrants stealing and
eating pets, and Donald Trump's vicious attacks on Vice
President Kamala Harris, which mirror what Vance is
urging Democrats to not do.
"Reject censorship and you reject political violence.
Embrace censorship, and you will inevitably embrace
violence on its behalf," Vance alleged in his post on X,
before reaching this dramatic conclusion: "The logic of
censorship leads directly to one place, for there is only
one way to permanently silence a human being: put a
bullet in his brain."
That's how Vance's screed ended. But it began with a
falsehood: "Yesterday, Donald J. Trump nearly lost his
life."
He was referring to the alleged attempted assassination
on Sunday, during which a 58-year old man who voted for
Trump in 2016 before publicly expressing his regret and
supporting Republican Nikki Haley this year, was found by
a Secret Service agent outside the perimeter of Trump's
Mar-a-Lago golf course, 300 to 500 feet away from the ex-
president, with an AK-47. The agent shot at the suspect,
who had been waiting in the bushes for about 12 hours.
"Ryan Wesley Routh did not fire any shots, never had
Trump in his line of sight and sped away after an agent
who spotted him shot in his direction, officials said. He
was arrested in a neighboring county," NBC South Florida
reported.
RELATED: Trump Repeatedly Blames Biden, Harris for
Assassination Attempt Allegedly by Another GOPer
And while this second alleged assassination attempt, once
again by a GOP voter, is disturbing, Trump did not nearly
lose his life anymore than he "took a bullet for
democracy," as he claimed after the first assassination
attempt.
And yet Vance wrote, "The rhetoric is out of control. It
nearly got Steve Scalise and many others killed a few
years ago. It nearly got Donald Trump killed twice" – a
clear attack on Democrats despite both alleged attempted
shooters targeting Trump were his own supporters, at
least at one time. As for the Scalise shooting in 2017,
seven years ago, the perpetrator had a 20-year history of
run-ins with the police, including an arrest "after a
2006 incident in which he was accused of beating his
foster daughter, according to court records. The case
crumbled after the victim decided not to testify,"
Bloomberg reported. Had he been convicted he would have
been unable to own a gun.
Vance also claimed that "Kamala Harris has said that
'Democracy is on the line' in her race against President
Trump. The gunman agreed, and used the exact same
phrase."
NCRM could find no news reports making the claim Routh
has said that, but you know who has? The American people.
"Americans agree that the future of democracy is on the
line in the 2024 election but disagree about who poses
the biggest threat," is the headline of a December PBS
News report.
"A poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public
Affairs Research found that 62% of adults say democracy
in the U.S. could be at risk depending on who wins next
fall. Majorities of Democrats (72%) and Republicans (55%)
feel the same way, but for different reasons."
Vance also promoted the claim – again, nowhere to be
found in news reports NCRM could find – that, he says,
"suggest [the bomb threats] came from a foreign country,
not--as the media suggested--a deranged Trump fan."
It is the same suggestion made, apparently without public
proof or substance, by Ohio's Republican Governor Mike
DeWine and Attorney General Dave Yost, also citing no
source.
As for the bomb threats, Governor DeWine announced Monday
there had been 33 since Donald Trump and JD Vance made
their wild accusations that Haitian immigrants (20,000
"illegal" migrants they falsely claimed) are stealing and
eating the cats and dogs of Springfield residents. 33
affecting 22 facilities including elementary schools and
hospitals that were forced to be evacuated, shuttered, or
searched.
RELATED: 33 Bomb Threats in Springfield Shuttered 22
Facilities in Days After Trump’s Immigrant Lie
Somehow, Vance and the GOP are claiming that the bomb
threats coming from overseas (not proven) absolve them of
any guilt. It does not. The bomb threats are a direct
result of Vance's and Trump's lies attacking immigrants,
which in turn are a hallmark of Donald Trump's political
career since he came down the golden Trump Tower
escalator in 2015 and told the American people their
problems are being caused by Mexicans.
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the
best. They're not sending you, they're sending people
that have lots of problems and they're bringing those
problems," Trump said on the June day when he launched
his first presidential run. "They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I
assume, are good people."
And while Vance is demanding Democrats "tone down the
rhetoric," he ignores the words of his running mate,
Donald Trump, who just last week repeatedly called Vice
President Harris "a threat to democracy," in a speech
before the Fraternal Order of Police.
Meanwhile, civil rights and national security journalist
Marcy Wheeler blasted Vance's massive social media post,
calling it a "a fascist manifesto," in which, she writes,
the Ohio Senator argues "that false claims dehumanizing
migrants is opinion the censorship of which will lead to
violence, but Harris' factual observations about Trump's
coup attempt is violence."
Posting a screenshot, Wheeler sardonically remarked that
his post "starts by feigning to care about incendiary
speech, but ultimately says you have to let his Nazi
buddies lie about Haitians eating kitties."
Because it was a lie, a lie that Vance admitted to when
he told CNN on Sunday he will "create stories" to promote
his agenda: "If I have to create stories so that the
American media actually pays attention to the suffering
of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to
do.”
National security attorney Brad Moss debunked Vance's
public remarks Monday in which the Senator claimed, "You
know the big difference between conservatives and
liberals is that no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris
in the last couple months, and two people now have tried
to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months. I'd
say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs to
tone down the rhetoric, and needs to cut this crap out."
Former Lincoln Project executive director Fred Wellman
summed up Vance's remarks, asking, "So if I understand
the new MAGA messaging correctly; quoting Trump and
Vance’s actual words they have said on the record
multiple times is inciting violence?"
The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson also slammed Vance,
writing: "All your gifts, wasted on a dissolute con man,
a rapist, serial adulterer, a bankrupt wastrel, and an
eager authoritarian who has stoked more violence, hatred,
division, death, and chaos than any President in modern
history. You, sir, are the cause of death and bomb
threats happening *this instant* in Ohio and you elide
your guilt with the grace of a Harvard law grad. Spare
me."
CNN host W. Kamau Bell blasted Vance's remarks on Monday:
"This reads like your daddy Trump yelled at you & told
you to make it right. You had an all-time debacle of an
interview yesterday where all you had to say was 'I’m
sorry to my home state. As an elected official it is my
responsibility to fact check the things I say.' & today
more bomb threats came into the schools that your
constituents send their kids to. You talk about
Democratic 'rhetoric' like your daddy didn’t lead an
attack on a the Capitol. Well, since you said we are
allowed to say mean things, let me say this, you are a
disgrace."
Mother Jones national affairs editor Mark Folman added,
"What brazen gaslighting from JD Vance, who literally led
the way on incitement blaming Dems for the shooting in
Pennsylvania — 'They even tried to kill him' This BS
rhetoric [was] repeated by Vance and many top Trump
surrogates."
MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Scarborough Tuesday morning called
Vance's speech in which he called for Democrats to tone
down the rhetoric, "gaslighting of the first order."
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 14:00:56
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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we all need to be really clear about one glaring fact...JD and the orange turd are mentally ill...they are sick in the head, as many of the repugs are...they cannot think in a correct or logical manner...i don't agree with AO that they are evil (although the argument can be made), but they certainly have no business being in government...they do not care about people or how they are doing...their main focus is retaining/gaining power, and then using it to advance their own wealth and perverted agendas...they have no spiritual base or aims...they are instant gratification types...and ill say whatever they think will give them some type of momentary reward or advantage...to put people like them into positions of power is akin to committing suicide...and killing your family first...think long and hard about who and what you want to vote for...
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Date: September 18, 2024 at 10:14:41
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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"i don't agree with AO that they are evil "
Maybe I am using the wrong term. But still I can’t shake this vision in which
If not evil themselves then they are readily occupied by a force of that
nature. Used by, doing the bidder for..
I say this because for me the drama, as I have posited before, is between a
force that wants to sterilize the planet.. heat it up enough that it does not
sustain higher forms of life.. and the blossoming of awareness beyond the
physical.. which this planet is inherently intended to foster.
Of course we could say it’s all haphazard man stumbling along but I am not
predisposed to that view, but rather one in which we are a part of a much
larger drama of intent..
For me Earth is Heaven and Hell as per an individual's choices. It’s
malleable, it is fluid. There is no need to be beyond here to be awakened or
burn. It is part of the natural path and we’re playing out our choices here.
And, it seems like there's a concerted effort to destroy the biological
balance that makes it possible to manifest here.
That force.. beyond all the facade, the who and whatever, seemingly has
found a willing vessel in the GOP, in MAGA. They act as drones that have
been coopted, and the force has molded itself to them. Them to it. It's a
small thing in and of itself, but Trump elected would spawn the same around
the globe. And as depots deny reality and declare victories with the threat
of retribution over and over at some point we will be committed to raping
the planet to death.
So, if not evil, what is the name for that?
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Date: September 18, 2024 at 10:34:23
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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I'm sure you're asking this of ryan, ao, since his
comment is what you're responding to...but may I offer an
answer for your consideration?
The name for that, that's being termed "evil," is fear.
IMHO, of course. Hell is a state of being in which one's
fears entirely rule their psyche, wherever they may find
themselves in form or in body or elsewhere...
And then as I understand things, it's fear, taken to its
furthest, darkest expression, that enables someone to *do
evil things*... I see *evil* as what gets expressed in
thought and action when a human being is entirely
possessed solely by their inherently limited
*human/egoic* energies...focused entirely upon self's
lowest resonances of greed, exclusivity, superiority,
status, the "power" they imagine money brings...with
nothing of Spirit/Infinite Love's Wholeness/Oneness
advising or teaching or mitigating those lower/younger
impulses...
And yes, I do see the entire GOPer/rightwing mindset and
platform as perfectly constructed from which to *enact
evil*... Absolutely...
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Date: September 18, 2024 at 10:44:50
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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"I'm sure you're asking this of Ryan.."
No, not really as much as addressing the point he made.. and I appreciate
your contribution.. probably more than most could comprehend.. though I
suspect you do. Thanks.
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 14:22:17
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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i should add, they are not only sick in the head, they are sick in their hearts...
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 15:27:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'Brazen gaslighting' J.D. slammed for telling Dems tone down... |
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Absolutely. All of that. Well said.
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