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Date: September 16, 2024 at 23:58:22
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels |
URL: Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels |
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interesting that illegal immigration numbers have dropped to trump era numbers from an executive order, something biden could have done at any time. why didn’t he in 2021 or 2022 or 2023? Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels The Border Patrol recorded about 58,000 apprehensions between the ports of entry in August. By Kierra Frazier 09/16/2024 09:20 PM EDT Migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border ticked up slightly last month but appear on track to reach the lowest annual total since the end of the Trump administration, Customs and Border Protection said Monday. The Border Patrol recorded about 58,000 apprehensions between the ports of entry in August, an increase of several thousand from the month prior but less than half the total from a year earlier, CBP said in a monthly news release that has become highly anticipated in an election year in which migration has become a central issue. Border apprehensions have plummeted since June, when President Joe Biden, under pressure from former President Donald Trump and his allies, issued executive orders to make it harder to claim asylum. “The data published today by U.S. Customs and Border Protection shows that since President Biden announced new, decisive executive actions to secure the border on June 4, encounters between ports of entry have dropped significantly and remain at their lowest level in years,” White House spokesperson Angelo Fernández Hernández said in a statement. Migrant encounters rose sharply after Biden took office and reached a record 250,000 in December. Apprehensions fell to a four-year low in July once the new restrictions were in place. CBP said the annual total of migrant encounters for the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30 is on track to reach the lowest level since 2020 and lower than the monthly average for 2019. Despite the drop in numbers, migration has continued to be a significant factor in the campaign — with both Trump and JD Vance making the issue a central focus of their appearances.
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 01:56:16
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels |
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“why didn’t he in 2021 or 2022 or 2023?”
I have no idea, though imagine you have one that fits some sort of Biden isn’t up for the job narrative. Though, I’ll give you, it’s a hell of a screwed up situation, isn’t it?
I keep believing that resistance to the flow isn’t the solution. I’m more apt to look for solutions that honor the needs of the people involved rather than otherwise. One thought that keeps coming around for me is why not welcome them and give incentives for companies to create more jobs so as to give the newly arrived opportunities rather than stigmatizing them. Why not give communities that offer to make formal programs that incorporate new immigrants subsidizes to help in their transition into our society?
But I get it, why not stigmatize them, turn them into lower class marginalized people that are forced into our worse conditions, make them pay for their suffering? After all, that seems to be what Trump calls being great. Seriously, OT, do you condone child separation? Isn’t that alone a reason to condemn those that did that? To insist people that formulated and approved and executed those policies never occupy any position in government again?
But back to how I envision it… why not give companies incentives, tax breaks, whatever, to expand? Isn’t that the American way? Invest expand grow make more..? Isn’t that what makes America great? Well, why not apply some of that yankee ingenuity and make a profit off the situation? Isn’t that preferable to turning people away in their hour of need?
But for real, you saw congress and the white house craft a bill that was tailored to the GOP’s way of dealing with things, and Trump turned it down purely for his selfish need for divisive rhetoric. And, you know Joe is much more interested in legislation through cooperative compromise than he is executive orders, so your question is just more of the same divisive, us verses them, narrative. It’s an extension of Trump’s refusal to allow that very conservative bill to be passed. It certainly doesn’t offer any solutions.
About those.. solutions.. I went on a bit about some of what I think, how I imagine I would approach the situation, what do you think is the way to deal with the needs of those who come in desperation to our borders? Really, OT, I’m honestly curious, what would you suggest we do?
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 10:55:29
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels |
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He not only didn't deal with it, but he stopped anyone else attempting to deal with it. He doesn't want a solution, he wants the hate, threat and violence he can whip up from it to win him the election.
From what I've heard and people I've talked to, other than his most faithful base, they are "over it".
He believes if it worked once in 2016, it'll work again. But it failed in 2018, 2020 and 2022.
What do they say about trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Some of his base (not all) also do not want a solution, they just like the permission to hate and hurt others freely. They think this is power. It is not true power, it's just permission to be the worst humans they want to be.
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Date: September 17, 2024 at 10:56:46
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Activity along the southern border returns to Trump-era levels |
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