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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:00:58
From: karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why i had to leave |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/441175.html |
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My life felt physically threatened because of ao so I no
longer felt safe to post ... I can easily be found ..
Yes - Shadow and red are also disgusting and personal
but thats just par for the course here ..
I cannot believe how far Ryan has let this site go into
the dumps ... So many great posters gone ...
Soon, Bopp will boot OT and it will just be his three
left ...
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 04:50:24
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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ao is an unhealthy soul masquerading as something else. I'm sorry you felt
threatened. Take care.
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 11:49:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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his response to karen did sound a bit like an abusive husband explaining
how the black eyes and busted lip and only means he loves and cares
about them
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 12:21:54
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Only to someone who doesn’t understand English…nor feel the energy of
someone’s intention…
…never mind understand how goofy it sounds to compare strong words
that have been well explained to actual physical violence…
Not even a nice try, ot, and definitely no cigar…
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 06:20:24
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Nah, you don't give a fig about karen's actual feelings,
and we know that...
...and no, ao's not that, and you're no fit judge of any
soul's health one way or the other, akira...lol...
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 11:14:21
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Mirrors are very threatening to those afraid of what they see when they
look into them.
I once had an experience where a mynah bird landed on the sill of the
open window of my truck, with me in it stopped at a park, and begin a
conversation with himself in the rear view mirror.. I just sat there for over
a half hour as that bird had the liveliest discussion about some seriously
weighty matters, or at least I imagined from the way he? she? carried on..
it was a seriously engaging moment..
Whereas others don’t seem all that disposed to use such an opportunity
to get to know the reflection they see when they look.. instead they fear
what they might find.
How can anyone’s experience on EB be anymore than that of a look in
their own mirror? How could I possibly be anymore that a reflection of
some aspect of the readers here?
For me there is no random, and every moment is some reflection of my
own. OT is me.. just as much as is Ry.. how could it be otherwise?
Sorry for rambling Karen, but you did focus your OP on me so I thought
you deserve a peek at how it looks from here.. beside the sun rising over
the ocean..
For me, my thoughts lend themselves to what is mine rather than who did
what and oh poor me.. and no there don’t seem to be any boogeymen in
my closet. I do get riled, and expressing my thoughts and feelings with
zeal may be a fault, if faults have any place at all here, but for real.. you
feel threatened? lol that’s a new one. I’d suggest asking yourself what it
is about yourself, rather than me, that creates that much fear.
But regardless, consider the roll a petty tyrant has in our lives. We all
have them, ones that grate rather than endear, but aren’t they the true
agents of our own wellbeing? Here to give us the honest reflection of
ourselves.. to offer us a means to overcome and get beyond our own
shortcomings? I certainly am grateful for all of mine.. maybe if you stop
blaming your’s and embrace whatever they are trying to help you see in
yourself you might outgrow your own fears..
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 12:21:20
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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“How can anyone’s experience on EB be anymore than that of a look in
their own mirror? How could I possibly be anymore that a reflection of
some aspect of the readers here?”
how does that work? no one i have ever dealt with in my long life has been
as abusive and insulting as you are on a regular basis. been around karen
here for many, many years and your vulgar and abusive and threatening
behavior doesn’t seem to be a reflection of karen
“I do get riled, and expressing my thoughts and feelings with
zeal may be a fault, if faults have any place at all here, but for real.. you
feel threatened?”
you may want to discuss this one with your therapist as when you express
your thoughts you do so by attacking others in a very disturbing way. i’ve
actually never seen you discuss any subject here without attacking
anyone who disagrees with you. if you treated people this way in real life
you would have been taught a painful lesson by your age so my
assumption is this abusive attitude is something you only do on the
internet
remember we are real people, try treating us with common decency. if you
need guidelines bopp long ago created rules saying stay on topic and
don’t make things personal, simple rules for peaceful adult discussion
that worked here for a long time until you showed up
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 12:31:40
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 11:54:09
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Thank you, ao, sincerely. That was well said ❤️ it comforted my heart.
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 11:27:10
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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And I should add..
Welcome back.. I hope you stay around. You always provide a most valuable
reflection. Literally, I am often amazed that some of us are as swayed as you
are by propaganda without any consideration of what's being said and it's
grounding, or lack thereof, in reality.
Fear is some heady stuff, ain't it?
Really Karen, you're the best.. and dearly loved here. Thanks for all you have
done, and please, carry on.
Btw, OT, worry not, I love you just as much. No need for you to get all jealous
and like that..
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:19:19
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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understandable karen, he is so full of unbridled hate as well as being
unstable and threatening there is no telling what he might do. glad to hear
you are well. red and ao have both ramped up their trolling with bopp
looking on so obviously my time is short here. wow this forum has
changed since ao showed up here and started trolling and attacking. not
the old earthboppin we enjoyed
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:26:12
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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LOL! And here's the next wave of hysteria chiming in!
Could've set my watch by you, OT...
This is yet another beautiful, and entirely personalized,
example of the LOOKOUT!!! YOU'D BETTER BE TERRIFIED OF
THESE UNHINGED LIBERALS, THEY'RE OUT TO GET YOU!!!
THEY'LL FIND YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE, LOCK YOU UP IN DEATH
CAMPS, KILL YOU ON THE STREET!!!
Anyone who doesn't understand that this election
literally comprises our choosing the difference between a
Fascist state, and continuing to attempt to enact what
our Constitution and Bill of Rights began, in this
country, has to be brain dead...
Anyone who doesn't understand that this will call up the
deepest and highest emotions possible in a human
being...our very freedoms and rights being
threatened...is also similarly functioning without full
sensory input..............
Get a clue, GOPers...lol....
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:15:01
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sorry posted on wrong board (NT) |
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:09:26
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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...lol...
Physically threatened by ao, karen? HOW, exactly?
Does ao know where you live? Do you actually believe he
meant you actual harm? lololol
Honestly, girl...your hysteria has become legendary,
amongst some others here... ;)
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 09:39:18
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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I never post on this board because I don’t care for the energy it provokes,
but I think this reply to Karen here should be due an apology.
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Date: August 01, 2024 at 12:27:40
From: ao
Subject: Re: JD Vance touts himself as being 'pro-family'?
“Child tax credit should be eliminated”
Ah, I see, so you’d rather children live in poverty, do you?
Gee, you’re one fucked up human being. Going around wishing trauma
and suffering on others, on children. And that’s as good as you got.. well
I for one think you should be tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered..
fucking raked across the coals.. and all those other imagines of a witch in
Salem being given her due.
And yet, there you are, clutching your pearls, happy to tell the world you
are for the suffering of others.. happy, unashamed to tell others you
would like to see kids harmed so as to make you feel superior to them..
There’s not words to express how sick that makes me feel. Shame on
you.
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 11:22:59
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Do you, sher? I find it interesting that you post this to
me... ;) Obviously it's up to ao, whether or not he feels
an apology is in order...
Okay then. Everyone here who reads my posts has witnessed
the shift in me that happened over several years, from
someone entirely personally or spiritually-focused in my
comments, never coming to the National/International
boards at all let alone posting here...to becoming the
very, um, dynamic voice on here that I have.
It's not been pretty. I acknowledge that. And yes, I've
heard all along the well-meant offerings, Pamela,
occasionally reminding me about energy matching and such,
have noted and appreciated them. Though I may not have
had much to say to that feedback at the time.
All along I've been wanting to *explain myself* about
this...but I've been dealing w/many limitations in my
expression and it's been beyond me. Sher, maybe it's your
energy, asking the question...but I'm going to give this
a try. And fair warning, it's definitely going to be a
ghastlylong ramble. I don't write well anymore.
I know *precisely* where ao is coming from. I know the
rage behind his words. But what I'm going to explain is
*about what happens for me,* from that rage -- he will
have to share whatever he feels to, or not, around this.
Sher, I feel that the singlemost dangerous threat to our
existence, as a species, is the phenomenon of
*desensitization/dissociation* to one another as human
beings... The function of human empathy and
conscience...the capacity of one human being *to care
about what happens to* their fellow human beings...is at
a critical, dangerous low ebb, one that is poised to turn
*one way or the other,* my dear... Do you not sense this
as well?
And so, of course, first thoughts might be to wonder how
it is I think that speaking harshly and intensely to
someone...as I do now to those of GOP
orientation...*could possibly serve* things turning more
humanitarianly, eh? Well of course. ;)
First part of the answer to that is a bit obvious: My
energy in these instances is about 80% feeling, and 20%
thinking strategically as to what approach is best to
take, when faced with the possibility of a Fascist
government at our next election... ;) Hey, I'll own that.
But do you know where that 80% of passion comes from?
It comes from knowing that for each and every vote a
GOPer makes for a GOPer in office, *actual children* will
go hungry that might otherwise not. Many if not most of
the social-conscience programs that exist to bridge the
gap between what people are able to make in income, and
what they need to feed/clothe/house their children, WILL
BE ELIMINATED if the GOP gets into office. It comes from
empathically feeling the reality of that
violence..........
Now...some people will read that paragraph above and
glaze over at my "GOPer" references, snapping judgement
that I'm "overly partisan" or whatever other ways they'll
have of compartmentalizing what I just said... *This is
the precise desensitization phenom I was speaking of, and
I experience it as VIOLENT.* It's so slick, so fast, so
easy...human lives and realities, DISMISSED FROM ONE'S
AWARENESS, ONE'S HEART AND CONSIDERATION...
I NEVER FORGET THAT EACH VOTE FOR A GOPer TRANSLATES TO
ACTUAL HUMAN CHILDREN BEING DEPRIVED OF THEIR NEEDS. I
can't say for sure, but I'm going to hazard a wild guess
that ao doesn't, either -- and what happens, I think, at
least for me, is that when I read a post here on National
that supports the ending of the Child Tax Credit...or
about any other GOPer support, because it translates to
dehumanizing our government entirely...TO ME, ANYWAY, IT
TRANSLATES PHYSICALLY, AS IF I'M WATCHING THAT POSTER
RIPPING FOOD AWAY FROM A CHILD. Like being HIT.
I mean...when it comes to the other human rights that a
GOPer government would eliminate...thinks like LGBTQ,
freedom from racism, not to mention instigating greater
corporate-greed accountability...it's easier for people
to desensitize from others, because there's so much
unconscious racism, unconscious sexual bias against
anyone different, remaining illusions that more money
equals higher character...lol...but food taken from
children? Regardless of their situation, how their
parents came to be poor? Oh yeah! Many GOPers have no
problem walling their hearts and consciences off from
even that........
And as I've noted here before...I was raised by people of
this orientation. I barely escaped with what it pleases
me to call the remnants of my emotional health and
sanity.
So! Given all this, what those who support GOPer anything
get from me in my posts is my best attempt to use intense
wording to WAKE THEM THE **CK UP, FROM BEING SO
DESENSITIZED TO THEIR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, THAT THEY CAN
AGREE WITH THESE POLICIES, AND GET A CLUE!!! You bet,
this has brought the righteous rage beast up from my
toes, and until I can tame it, I'm going to let it have
its voice!
Someone blithely, casually, voices support for, say,
powerhosing the sidewalks to eliminate the homeless...for
cutting the child tax credit...for removing civil rights
protections...Sher, it feels like someone is literally
hitting ME, as if I were the person affected by the cuts
that'd happen if they get in office....
Because while I am as White as White gets (100% Northern
European lol) and I'm not gay, by all other standards of
measure and understanding I am most definitely your *Most
Alternative of Human Beings*...lol... I was treated to
the helpless hatred of my Mom and her entire family, just
for being who I was...and I have no words for what it's
like, watching the monster of that fear-based
consciousness blow up into the threat the GOP has
become... GOP values reject anything not of a very tight
and rigid set of beliefs that is common to only a small
percentage of the population, and they would enforce that
over everyone, if they were allowed...
While it is physically impossible for me to be violent
toward another human being, I have to acknowledge that I
often see those who don't have the sense to resist this
impending Fascist state as almost “needing a metaphorical
slap* upside their thinking!!! It is not natural, in my
humble opinion, to go along with having one's entire
reality controlled and dictated along lines one doesn't
agree with!!! Sher, you once asked me, “Don't I have
sympathy for the wounds and fears that lie behind GOPer
values and thinking?” or something similar? I said then,
and I'll repeat now: You have no idea, the precise scope
and depth and measure of them that I'm viscerally aware
of.... And, yes: Each wound, each fear, deserves nothing
but tenderness, and empathy, and skilled therapy! But
that's not what's happening in our world, right now, and
to illustrate, I'll just ask you how you think, say,
karen or old timer would respond if I attempted to love
up the woundings behind their casually-, if
unintentionally violent stances?
I love every human being on this planet, Sher. I'd give
my life for anyone's, if necessary and if doing so would
save theirs or would save them from having their rights
and freedoms taken away. ANYONE. End of story. But those
rights do not include the right to “vote in” taking away
the rights of others!! And in those instances, like the
crossroads we're at now, every drop of my energy will go
toward nonviolently preventing that from happening...
One day (dear Pamela ;), I will find myself in an
energetic position of having no more rage around
inhumanity, and inhumanity being SUPPORTED in any way...
At that point I will be whole within Silence and simply
emanate only the Love I Am, in a space of real self-
realization...and everyone here will finally be free of
my rantings... ;) Until then, however...I remain as I
am... ;)
Not going to re-read this or I'll edit it endlessly and
never post it...lol...so apologies for typos or lunacy or
whatever... ;)
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 14:11:03
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Hi shadow, you said
“ Sher, you once asked me, “Don't I have
sympathy for the wounds and fears that lie behind GOPer
values and thinking?” or something similar? I said then,
and I'll repeat now: You have no idea, the precise scope
and depth and measure of them that I'm viscerally aware “
Sorry, I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I never post about
politics or any political party. So I would not have asked you a question
regarding this subject.
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 14:21:23
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Hmm... ;) You know, the question may not have been asked
in a political context, specifically, sher...it may have
been regarding those who feel they have the right to
deprive others of their rights, or something
similar...but I do remember that it was you, and the
general gist of the question, because it really is such
an important point, and I appreciated your raising it...
It was sometime back, though I don't *think* it's been a
year (though heaven only knows anymore)...and I know the
exchange didn't happen on this board... I thought maybe
it happened from a post I did on the C-Bib-Rel board, so
I did a quick search and am not seeing it...
I will find it!!! lol ;)
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 14:34:34
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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I don’t usually post on the c-bib-rel board either. Very rarely if at all.
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 14:49:40
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Well, like I said, I didn't find it
there...
Unless I hallucinated it, I'll find it,
whatever board it happened on... ;)
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 14:56:37
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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I found it, lol, you are not hallucinating. It was on the c-bil-rel back in Jan
regarding “fear based anger” . Take care!!!
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Date: September 15, 2024 at 15:07:51
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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Ah okay. I gave up at March...lol...
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 12:00:17
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why i had to leave |
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You said
“I love every human being on this planet, Sher. I'd give
my life for anyone's, if necessary and if doing so would
save theirs or would save them from having their rights
and freedoms taken away. ANYONE. End of story. But those
rights do not include the right to “vote in” taking away
the rights of others!! And in those instances, like the
crossroads we're at now, every drop of my energy will go
toward nonviolently preventing that from happening”
I know you do shadow and I love you for that and I have over the years
found much wisdom in your words! But sometimes “we ALL” paint with a
wide brush, so to speak.
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Date: September 14, 2024 at 11:52:46
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
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“I NEVER FORGET THAT EACH VOTE FOR A GOPer TRANSLATES TO
ACTUAL HUMAN CHILDREN BEING DEPRIVED OF THEIR NEEDS.”
That’s it in a nutshell. The GOP, and all the “sensitives”, want to go on
about the minutia, but discount the actual real world impacts of the
things they defend with some sort of discussion that serves nothing
more that to cover up their complicity.. and it’s infuriating.. that they
would inflict harm wily nilly..
Karen’s face diapers come to mind. The deaths of untold number of
species comes to mind.. the fact that some would weaponize issues that
need our attention.. climate change, vaccines, these people are criminal
and if we are to measure their effects honestly they deserve to be locked
up as much as any murderer. It’s as simple as that. But no, they hide
behind the illusion of a fair conversation and all the implied compromises
that civility expects from us. Whereas from here they are criminal.. and
the real frustration is they are not held to account.
Thanks shadow.
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