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Date: September 11, 2024 at 15:45:12
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
URL: Trump's a broken man atop a broken campaign. |
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From the Atlantic..
Last night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris did to Donald Trump what Donald Trump had done to Joe Biden: She broke her opponent on a debate stage.
I’ve been watching presidential debates since 1976, and I’ve even been peripherally involved in a few. And I’ve never seen a candidate execute a debate strategy as well as Harris did.
The night, for Harris supporters, went better than even the most optimistic among them could have hoped. For Trump supporters, it was not just a defeat but a public humiliation, the crushing comeuppance they probably secretly feared might one day arrive but, until now, never quite had.
What Harris appeared to understand, better than anyone else who has debated Trump, is that the key to defeating him is to trigger him psychologically. She did it by repeatedly calling him “weak,” mocking him, acting bemused by him, and literally laughing at him. As he lost control of events, Trump became enraged, his voice bellowing into an empty room, his face not just orange but nearly fluorescent. Trump realized that his opponent—and not just any opponent, but a woman of color—was dominating him. And so even as Trump exploded, he was, like a dying supernova, shrinking before our eyes.
Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.
Trump needed to paint himself as the agent of change, to fuse Harris to Biden, and to make the vice president defend her most extreme past statements. Instead, Harris forced Trump to go on the defensive, wandering into the worst possible terrain for him.
Over the course of debate, Trump defended the violent mob that had attacked the Capitol. He insisted that the 2020 election had been stolen from him. He relitigated his slander of the Central Park Five. He defended his decision to invite the Taliban to Camp David and invoked Hungary’s authoritarian leader, Viktor Orbán, as a character witness. He couldn’t bring himself to say that he hopes Ukraine will win its war against Russia, even when pressed. And he spent valuable time emphatically insisting that the multiple indictments against him are “fake cases.”
But that’s not all. Trump savaged people he had appointed to his administration who have since broken with him. He repeated his claim that Harris wasn’t Black. And then there was the pièce de résistance: Trump spreading the conspiracy theory, weird even by his standards, that in Springfield, Ohio, Haitian migrants are abducting and devouring their neighbors’ pets. “They’re eating the dogs!” he roared. “The people that came in—they’re eating the cats!” And he still couldn’t stop himself. When one of the moderators, ABC’s David Muir, rebutted Trump’s claim, the former president said, “I’ve seen people on television! People on television say, ‘My dog was taken and used for food!’”
By the debate’s end, it was easy to forget that Trump had started reasonably well—he was, by his standards, fairly controlled and focused— and Harris was nervous. It looked like it might end in a draw.
But about 15 minutes into the debate, things began to change. Harris taunted Trump about his rallies: “What you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.” Trump could not stop himself; he rose to take the bait. “People don’t leave my rallies,” he insisted. “We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies, in the history of politics.”
Harris began to find her rhythm, launching a series of withering attacks, and Trump started to unravel. His countenance darkened, and the volume of his voice rose. He became less coherent and more insulting. His rhetoric became more extreme, at times taking flight from reality. He spoke in sentences that grew clipped, and sometimes barely comprehensible. Half an hour into the debate, Harris was not only in control; she seemed to be having fun. Trump looked desolate and furious. Harris made him see “matador red,” in the words of The New York Times’ Matt Flegenheimer. Trump never laid a glove on her.
Donald Trump is so feral and narcissistic, so unrestrained and so outside the norm of American politics, that he’s difficult to debate. It’s disorienting. Very few people have been able to stand up to him without being pulled into the muck. In the past, even when he lost debates on points, he dominated his opponents.
But on a Tuesday night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris cracked the code. She took Trump apart without losing her composure. She worked to insulate herself against charges that she’s a left-wing radical, even reminding voters that she’s a gun owner. Harris succeeded in presenting herself, a sitting vice president in an unpopular administration, as the change agent. She appealed to unity, inviting Americans to “turn the page” on a man who belittles the country and seeks to keep it in a constant state of agitation and chaos. And she returned time and again to the argument that Trump cares only for himself, whereas during her career, she’s had only one client: the people.
“As a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, ‘Are you a Republican or a Democrat?’” Harris said in her closing statement. “The only thing I ever asked them: ‘Are you okay?’ And that’s the kind of president we need right now. Someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.”
Two minutes later, after a closing statement in which Trump referred to America as “a failing nation,” he exited the stage, into the shadows, a broken man atop a broken campaign.
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 16:51:58
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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That's the best article I've seen on the debate. Thanks.
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 21:24:29
From: Rodney Boulderfield, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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This would be very sad, if true, regarding both the Subject line and the pathetic article. If you actually have a clue what you're looking for, you can do light- years better, but you have to actually be truth tolerant.
The article credits Harris and the conspiring moderators with a perfectly executed debate strategy. Indicating it was all rehearsed as much as possible without inviting Donny to rehearsal.
Sorry, can't resist the example of Blind Melon Elton in calling him that, I think that's pretty much the standard in the Isles, at least among those who like him.
Trump projects leadership and strength, something the establishment just can't tolerate in a President. Harris is a follower of the party line, with a lot of wild partying on the resume. Actually the rez claims Mickey D's but the word is she had quite a run at Eat At Joe's.
You want to negotiate with Putin, don't send a man, send a Ho.
Trump has a strategic mind, he knows Ukraine can't win by having executed their prime military population in ground combat. Hello? No number of Eff Sixteens or any other Effs can un Eff that. Drone attacks on Moscow and elsewhere in Sovereign Russia are not strategy, they are extortionate desperation.
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 09:31:54
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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wait - what???? you claim Drump has a 'strategic mind'??? Yhgtbk! Rotflmao! He can't even complete a coherent sentence let alone utilize words that are beyond 2nd grade???? You are kidding, right???
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 08:33:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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Did I read your words here correctly? "Trump projects leadership and strength, something the establishment just can't tolerate in a President."
Dude...the man can't complete a proper sentence...he's very graphically a racist, misogynistic thug who's for sale to the highest bidder to his ego...and that's what you call leadership and strength?
Heaven help us all, and God save us from witless Republicans...
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 08:42:43
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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yeah, that's not leadership. It's mental illness and a sad, desperate old man.
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 08:47:42
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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It's the fact that so many human beings *see him as powerful* that twists my brain into knots...
*off in search of my morning bellylaugh*...lately it's been hard to find, even in the wake of knowing it's over for DJT...just, gadzooks, can hardly believe where this has all taken us as a species............ 8-\
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 11:41:29
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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i think most of his "power" is he gets something on a person (pics, whatever) in a compromised position and then leverage that for obeyance...classic mobster technique...seems the only thing that explains guys like lindsey and cruz and their undying support...
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 11:30:48
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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I didn't see powerful from him. I heard an old man yelling crazy shit about eating cats and dogs and being put in his place by a younger woman, and he was seething over it.
The tired, crazy old orange guy didn't speak leader to me.
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 11:39:38
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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I mean...*right?!?!*
It takes literally *everything I've got* and then Way More to keep breathing amidst witnessing the reality of how many human beings are experiencing these very serious and dangerous hallucinations...
No, really. It takes my breath away.
And it takes me back to the exact moments in early 2016 when I was typing a joking post, about how DJT supporters, if presented with DJT holding up three fingers and screaming "I'm holding four fingers up here, am I not?" they would yell back at him, "Yes! YES, Donald! You're holding up FOUR FINGERS!!!"
It actually was...yes, I'll own it...STILL A JOKE in my head, at that point. Like, "They're so goofy, they'd even do this!" The hardcore trumpists who would turn that from a joke into reality hadn't quite followed him all the way into hell yet, made themselves known so graphically yet...
And NOW??????????????
Sweet Jesus in the Morning...NOW...their hallucinations have morphed proportionately, and we have words spoken like we see everyday, that literally belie the laws of basic human perception and understanding.......
Considering an induced coma until this is over...lol...
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Date: September 12, 2024 at 12:04:52
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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They are sounding crazier because they are suddenly scared and freaking out inside.
They're having an "oh shit" moment after the debate, like the dems had after the Biden debate.
Except, they aren't allowed to admit how bad it was publicly. So they are doubling down on crazy and hope it just intimidates their "soft voter" people to get back in line, or figure out more ways to keep the other side from voting, or even getting to a voting booth or ballot, or making sure their votes aren't counted.
You know, instead of actually looking at their own choices or doing the right thing.
They're realizing..they've hung this guy around their own necks and probably designed their own loss, but don't have the spine or time to do anything about it now.
I'm having a hard time finding any remaining shits left for their feelings after what they've put our country through already like covid, division, jan 6, and the chaos and insanity, etc.
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 22:23:40
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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you mean the conspiring moderators that let the rump interrupt time after time when he was not suppose to be speaking, just because karmala pushed his itty bitty buttons? those moderators?
rump projects sloth and hatred...anger and no sense of humor...all show and no go...all hat and no horse...
and you with your misogynistic attacks on the VP...what is up with that pimp daddy? mommy liked your brother best? and who doesn't like to party? repugs are so droll...
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 22:15:55
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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"Trump projects leadership and strength, something the establishment just can't tolerate in a President."
Wow, for real, you believe that, or is it satire? Really man, I can't believe anyone would say that about Trump. Touché, you win the prize.
Trump projects buffoonery. He's an angry, racist, selfish, uneducated, emotionally crippled buffoon. At least that's what it looks like from here. And I doubt I'm not the only one who sees it that way..
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 21:35:17
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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in other words, ya got nothin'...
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Date: September 11, 2024 at 21:46:57
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump |
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pretty much, but I'm guessing he's all the rage on Tucker's YouTube comment page or those dark places on the web where conspiracy rules and "Q" is still mentioned in hushed and reverent tones...
(nice creative writing, but no sale lol).
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