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Date: September 09, 2024 at 21:26:13
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: A debate spelled the end for Biden. For Trump and Harris, the stakes a

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A debate spelled the end for Biden. For Trump and Harris, the stakes are
sky high

Michael Collins
USA TODAY


WASHINGTON − When the history of the 2024 presidential election is
written, the one and only debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump
will be remembered as the event that truly changed the course of the
race.

A few weeks after Biden’s disastrous performance, he dropped out, and
Kamala Harris stepped in as the Democratic nominee. This week, the
second debate of the presidential contest will take place, this time
between Harris and Trump. The stakes are high for both candidates; polls
show a close race with just two months left until Election Day.


For Harris, Tuesday's debate in Philadelphia will provide a chance to show
she can stand up to Trump and introduce herself to voters who feel they
know little about her. For Trump, the debate is an opportunity to define
Harris on his terms and try to regain some of the momentum he lost to her
after the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

In a race this close, a strong debate performance could give either
candidate an edge going into the final weeks of the campaign. But don’t
expect this debate to be as earthshaking or as game-changing as the
Biden-Trump confrontation June 27


“We’re not going to see anything that dramatic happen again,” said David
Greenberg, a history professor at Rutgers University and an expert on
presidential debates.


Few presidential debates have a major impact on the race. But that
doesn’t mean debates don’t matter, experts said.

Though she has been Biden’s vice president for nearly four years, Harris is
still relatively unknown to many voters. Americans who didn’t see Harris’
well-received speech at the Democratic convention in Chicago may tune
in to the debate to learn more about her. The same is true for independent
or undecided voters still seeking information to help them make up their
minds.


Harris is “on a very positive trajectory at the moment – she has the wind
at her back,” said Alan Schroeder, who has written several books about
presidential debates. “What’s next? Can she sustain that? Can she build
on that? Or does this prove to be a false illusion? This debate … gives her
a chance to sort of demonstrate who she is to people in a context that can
be tricky.”

Given the abbreviated time frame Harris has to make her case, the debate
probably carries more weight than a typical presidential debate, said
Dustin Carnahan, a Michigan State University associate professor who
specializes in political engagement.

Biden exited the race and Harris stepped in just four months before
Election Day. Since then, “the Harris campaign has really crammed in a lot
of events that typically do generate positive news coverage, as well as the
fact that the party has really coalesced around her,” Carnahan said. “In a
sense, the debate might be the end of the honeymoon.

“This is where it’s pretty critical for the Harris campaign to convince
people – getting into things like policy, where she’s already starting to get
some criticism,” Carnahan said. “What will she do if she’s elected? She’s
going to have to answer those questions, and the debate is going to be a
really important opportunity for her to do that.”

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In Trump’s case, voters already know who the Republican nominee is and
have come to expect erratic behavior from him. But while he has been able
to bluster his way through debates with other GOP candidates during the
primaries, he hasn’t been as successful when put on stage with his
Democratic opponents in the general election.

In 2016, Trump didn’t do particularly well in his three debates against
Hillary Clinton, Schroeder said. He won the debate with Biden by default:
It was Biden’s uneven performance – not an especially strong showing by
Trump himself – that drove Biden out of the race, Schroeder said.

The challenge for Trump “is to rein it in as best as he can and not cross
the line into disrespect when he has a female candidate, a nonwhite
candidate,” Schroeder said, “because Trump has shown himself to be
uncomfortable in handling those topics.”

Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy participate in the first nationally
televised debate between presidential candidates on Sept. 26, 1960
Every now and then, a presidential debate can make a difference.

The most famous example is probably the first televised presidential
debate, which was between Democrat John F. Kennedy and Republican
Richard Nixon in 1960. The telegenic Kennedy, just 43 at the time, wore
makeup and projected youthfulness and vigor to the TV audience. Nixon,
just four years older than Kennedy, refused to put on makeup, sweated
profusely under the hot television lights, and appeared old and tired.

Viewers who watched the debate on TV thought Kennedy had won, while
those who listened to it on the radio gave the edge to Nixon. Kennedy won
the presidency in one of the closest races in history. He later conceded he
probably would not have won had it not been for the debate.

Sixteen years later, in 1976, Republican President Gerald Ford seriously
damaged his campaign when he insisted during a debate with Democrat
Jimmy Carter that there was no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. Ford
probably would have lost anyway, analysts say, but his gaffe solidified the
public’s image of him as a bumbler-in-chief who was grossly out of touch
with reality. He was never able to recover.


In 1980, Republican Ronald Reagan effectively used his only debate with
Carter to dispel the perception that he was a radical warmonger by
coming across as amiable and talking of peace. In one of the most
memorable lines ever spoken during a presidential debate, Reagan tapped
into voters’ concerns about high inflation by asking viewers, “Are you
better off than you were four years ago?”

A week later, Reagan scored a landslide victory over Carter, who won just
six states and the District of Columbia.

“That (debate) made a difference to a lot of Americans,” Greenberg said.

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Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan debate each other in Cleveland just one
week before the 1980 presidential election
More recently, then-Vice President Al Gore, who was considered the
superior debater, sighed loudly, rolled his eyes and shook his head during
a debate with then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush ahead of the close 2000
election. Voters told pollsters they disliked Gore’s personality, his small
lead against Bush vanished, and he lost the super-close election, which
was ultimately decided by the Supreme Court.

Eleven years later, then-Texas Gov. Rick Perry mortally wounded his
campaign when, during a debate with other GOP candidates ahead of the
2012 primaries, he famously could not remember one of the three
government departments he had vowed to eliminate if elected. A couple of
months later, he withdrew from the race.

Donald Trump and Joe Biden face each other in a debate that would
change the course of the 2024 presidential election
No presidential debate, though, has had the catastrophic impact on a
candidate as the showdown between Biden and Trump last June.

“The entire race was turned upside down as a consequence of Biden’s
performance,” Carnahan said.

Biden not only failed to address concerns about whether he was
physically and mentally capable of serving a second term, he “reinforced
to much of an extent the concerns that people, that voters, that
individuals within his own party were having around his ability to make it
through the 2024 election cycle,” Carnahan said.

“That was something we will probably be hard-pressed to see happen
again.”


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Date: September 09, 2024 at 22:48:02
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A debate spelled the end for Biden. For Trump and Harris, the...


more like a meh...carny side show for those who eat that kinda crap up...


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Date: September 09, 2024 at 23:23:02
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A debate spelled the end for Biden. For Trump and Harris, the...


isn’t that what you said before the first debate? lol


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Date: September 10, 2024 at 01:48:10
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A debate spelled the end for Biden. For Trump and Harris, the...


exactly...


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