440756
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Guns…
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I now see the father of the kid that yesterday killed people in Georgia has been arrested. Good, it’s a start. But by my reckoning guns need to be removed from our society. I don’t care the second amendment, I don’t care anyone’s so called rights, and in fact I don’t think our constitution gives people free rein with them. The second amendment, in its entirety reads… A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. And nobody when defending their so called rights to have guns ever, EVER, reference the first half of that sentence. They are all for the right to have sex with their guns, to fondle them and shove them up their ass, but never, EVER, mention the fact that that right is in direct association with them being a part of a “A well regulated Militia”, never. And no, I don’t buy the idea that everyone is a hunter, and in fact if you are a hunter you’re sick as it is and should have your guns taken away from you. Consider. I have a car. I have to take a test that proves I can operate it, I have to register it, I have to have it checked for safety, and I have to insure my use of it in the event that it is involved in an accident. All before I can drive it on the streets. And, I have to renew that right every year. Whereas that kids father gave him, a 14 year old kid, an assault rifle without anything.. and that kid was able to take it out for a drive, and kill people with nothing but the NRA’s blessing. Our country is sick, and guns, and our need to possess them, is a major symptom of our sickness. To heal from this I would support the outlawing of assault rifles, I would support liability insurance for all gun owners, and that guns must be locked up at all times. And I would support a lifetime without the possibility of release, for anyone committing a crime, any crime, steal candy from a baby, while possessing a gun. |
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440759
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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Ordinary hunters don't need assault rifles. So very few do, nothing would be lost to register and restrict them. They called that child Colt. After a horse or a gun, how did he take it? Damn tragedy. "Our country is sick, and guns, and our need to possess them, is a major symptom of our sickness. To heal from this I would support the outlawing of assault rifles, I would support liability insurance for all gun owners, and that guns must be locked up at all times." What good ideas. They would go far. However, I would be surprised if the guns weren't locked up and a teenager wouldn't know how to open it. |
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440783
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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I think it is long past time to question why anyone needs a gun. What good are they? I mean, hunters, the classic reason, what's with that? I am all for someone who actually hunts for subsistence, but think of it.. killing another for sport? Killing someone, for, isn't a deer someone? Doesn't a deer have a family, loved ones? So, what's with the idea of us, people, literally making a sport out of killing them? That, to me, is a sickness our society, mankind, has been afflicted with for a very long time. And one we can not evolve out of here without outgrowing. And I get it, we're all eating something, some one, and someone else is eating us, or should be, but that's not what I am pointing out. I am saying someone that goes to a store and buys a machine with the express purpose of making killing another a sport is sick. Horribly horribly sick. And we, all of us, ain't anywhere near our potential in a world where people do that. It is a sickness and it infects all of us. How can anyone expect the grace of god if we carry on like that? Obviously I could go on.. to me guns are vile, evil things.. and the desire to possess them is a disease.. But that's a long way from here. In practical terms.. we let people drive machines that if used without caution kill people. For god's sake we make not wearing a seatbelt illegal. And we do what with guns? And I think anyone owning guns should have to carry at a minimum ten million dollars in liability insurance per firearm. And anyone owning a gun is 100% liable for whatever that gun does whether it does it by their hand or someone else does it. You want to own a gun.. if you think that is what will make you happy, pay the freight. On top of that I think the feds should have a country wide gun buyback program, and give a hefty sum. Say five hundred bucks for a standard firearm and a thousand bucks for assault type to any anonymous surrendering of a firearm. And that program should remain in effect for as long as people bring guns forward. I think 100 billion dollars invested would be money well spent. Like I said, I could go on.. |
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440768
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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Mitra, ao, such beautiful intelligent words and energies, thank you... My heart is utterly broken for this very obviously broken young man who was irresponsibly armed and enabled to take the lives of others...and for those who lost their lives, and their loved ones... I must believe that this country will reclaim and embody the Spirit of Freedom it came into being within, for ALL...including children being free of fear for their lives, with adults paying the *comparatively infinitesimal price* for that, of doing everything possible to regulate arms... I mean...I know many radical GOPers are frothing at the mouth for a DJT win, so they can try their hand at a Fascist insurrection again...and of course they'll need maximum firepower for that, so there's no way the GOP will support gun regulation regardless of how many children die in school shootings...because they can always say, "The shooter would've gotten a gun however they needed to..." This is the way GOPer morality works, don'tcha know...lol...they're not responsible for *anything* that *could happen anyway*... |
440774
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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So now we know this child was given the gun. It wasn't locked up. The child will spend the rest of his life in prison, no less for the dad. They (the NRA/GOP cretins) have got their scapegoat, wahoo. No challenge to existing laws, again. And because no one "defunded" the police i.e. put resources into community care, there was no one to follow up on the initial warning call. No matter now. They'll be able to punish the perpetrators. At least the ones in jail. Another victory for the flawed existing order. The poor families of the victims and others at school will be punished their whole lives long, too. My heart breaks for them, for too many, shot or escaped, this will be a defining moment for their school years. All because some (looks to me) meth head wanted a tough kid to brag about. The GOP needs to project an image of manly men, so expect no changes. |
440779
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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wonder where dad got the idea? Xmas card of Rep. Andy Ogles, GOP-TN.  Xmas card of Rep. Lauren Boebert, GOP-CO.  Xmas card from Nevada lawmaker Michele Fiore.  Xmas message of Rep. Thomas Massey, GOP-KY. 
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440780
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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because we all know Jesus was born with a gun in the manger, and the wisemen brought him 3 more when they arrived. Then they shot the inkeeper, the animals and the sick and the poor as they brought their message across the land. |
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440782
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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Right?! That was *The Original Victory!!!* That's how we know that God Approves of Unregulated Guns!!! Why can't these people get it straight??? |
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440775
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Guns…
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Exactly. Their ignorance is so spectacular, they actually imagine themselves to be honoring/protecting/carrying forward the Spirit of the United States... They hallucinate that they are "patriots" when in fact their mentality and their stated agenda literally defines them as insurrectionist thugs... Counting the days... |
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