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Date: January 26, 2025 at 05:41:19
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Charles... Trump wants 'just clean out' Gaza, by removing Palestinians |
URL: AP: Trump wants Jordan and Egypt to accept more Palestinian refugees and floats plan to ‘clean out’ Gaza |
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Get the picture yet?
BY ZEKE MILLER AND WILL WEISSERT January 26, 2025
"ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) — President Donald Trump said Saturday he would like to see Jordan, Egypt and other Arab nations increase the number of Palestinian refugees they are accepting from the Gaza Strip, potentially moving out enough of the population to “just clean out” the war-torn area to create a virtual clean slate.
During a 20-minute question-and-answer session with reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump also said he has ended his predecessor’s hold on sending 2,000-pound bombs to Israel. That lifts a pressure point meant to reduce civilian casualties during Israel’s war with Hamas in Gaza, which is now halted by a tenuous ceasefire.
“We released them today,” Trump said of the bombs. “They’ve been waiting for them for a long time.” Asked why he lifted the ban on those bombs, Trump responded, “Because they bought them.”
Trump has built his political career around being unapologetically pro-Israel. On his larger vision for Gaza, Trump said he had call earlier in the day with King Abdullah II of Jordan and would speak Sunday with President Abdel Fattah el- Sissi of Egypt.
“I’d like Egypt to take people,” Trump said. “You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing and say, ‘You know, it’s over.’”
Why Netanyahu’s political future is as fragile as the ceasefire Trump said he complimented Jordan for having successfully accepted Palestinian refugees and that he told the king, “I’d love for you to take on more, cause I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now, and it’s a mess. It’s a real mess.”
Such a drastic displacement of people would openly contradict Palestinian identity and deep connection to Gaza. Still, Trump said the part of the world that encompasses Gaza, has “had many, many conflicts” over centuries. He said resettling “could be temporary or long term.”
“Something has to happen,” Trump said. “But it’s literally a demolition site right now. Almost everything’s demolished, and people are dying there.” He added: “So, I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations, and build housing in a different location, where they can maybe live in peace for a change.”
There was no immediate comment from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office.
Trump has offered non-traditional views on the future of Gaza in the past. He suggested after he was inaugurated on Monday that Gaza has “really got to be rebuilt in a different way.”
The new president added then, ”Gaza is interesting. It’s a phenomenal location, on the sea. The best weather, you know, everything is good. It’s like, some beautiful things could be done with it, but it’s very interesting.”
Resuming delivery of large bombs, meanwhile, is a break with then-President Joe Biden, who halted their delivery in May as part of an effort to keep Israel from launching an all-out assault on the southern Gaza city of Rafah. A month later, Israel did take control of the city, but after the vast majority of the 1 million civilians that had been living or sheltering in Rafah had fled.
“Civilians have been killed in Gaza as a consequence of those bombs and other ways in which they go after population centers,” Biden told CNN in May when he held up the weapons. “I made it clear that if they go into Rafah ... I’m not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafah, to deal with the cities, that deal with that problem.”
The Biden pause had also held up 1,700 500-pound bombs that had been packaged in the same shipment to Israel, but weeks later those bombs were delivered.
Trump’s action comes as he has celebrated the first phase of a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel that has paused the fighting and seen the release of some hostages held by Hamas in Gaza in return for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.
Negotiations have yet to begin in earnest on the more difficult second phase of the deal that would eventually see the release of all hostages held by Hamas and an enduring halt to the fighting.
If the remaining hostages are not released, the Israeli government has threatened to resume its war against Hamas, which launched a massive assault against Israel on Oct. 7, 2023."
___ Miller reported from Washington Image ZEKE MILLER Zeke is AP’s chief White House correspondent
WILL WEISSERT Weissert covers national politics and the White House for The Associated Press. He is based in Washington.
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Date: January 26, 2025 at 11:22:21
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: trump is at least talking ab out gaza. that's positive |
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i'm lisgtening tgo al jazeerfa ab out tghis su bject. hav entg figured out where those spaces in my typing come from. i might be down to one fingered typing. oh well. trump will hear tghatg is genocide. and trump knows thatg tghe destruction in gaza was caused by american bombs. with 15 or mor lebanese killed by israel and 3 killed in gaza besides. time will tell.
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 11:09:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Charles... |
URL: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/middleeast/trump-clean-out-gaza-middle-east-intl/index.html |
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it's time to face reality.
He wants to force 1.5 Palestinians out of Gaza, out of their homes, communities. He said it. In his own words...
"Trump said on Saturday that he would like Jordan and Egypt to take in Gazans internally displaced by Israel’s devastating war in the enclave. “You’re talking about a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One.
The potential transfer, he said, “could be temporary” or “could be long-term.” Both countries swiftly rejected the idea."
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 12:41:57
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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not only that, he said he could do some really "nice things" with that land...just need to clear the riffraff off it...
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 17:58:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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nice things can be done with a shot gun too.
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 16:56:36
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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That just represents such a complete absence of rational common sense...let alone lack of humanity...
Even had they the technology to literally scrape the whole territory of its Earth half a mile deep...they'd never be able to *remove* the residuals of so much evil - - physical, tangible toxins as well as the pure horror of all that was wrought there...
"Nice things"...never, ever again...no...
The nerve, even, to suggest such a thing...........
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 08:09:36
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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no, that was said with common sense involved. dtrump has a world v iew and not a constrained vierw of a place or presence. his view of gaza is that is unliviable for the present. give them a nice place to live in while it is cleaned up and then move back in. he is a builder and thatg is his v iew. itg's not a punitgive view b ut one that concerns the v ictim. thats what i see.
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 14:00:36
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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Do you even live in this reality Chas?
Seriously man, you're taking in tongues, parables, something that is wholly unnatural.. not of this world.
"give them a nice place to live"
Hahahahah where in the fuck is that?
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 08:10:42
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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and i don't approve of his view.
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 14:03:10
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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can't argue with what he said
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Date: January 27, 2025 at 14:39:04
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Charles... |
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hope it doesn't happen to your neighborhood...
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Date: January 26, 2025 at 12:46:27
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: trump is at least talking ab out gaza. that's positive |
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Hey Charlie..
Didn't you tell us, with all the assurance of a man that knows what he's talking about, that Trump was gonna be the second coming for the Palestinians? That he was going to save the day?
And didn't we tell you he would eliminate the people of Gaza entirely? Mentioning spas and hotels.. Trump's very own Mediterranean wonderland?
You should try dictation.. your computer, phone, whatever is very good at it. You speak, it types, easy. You'll love it.
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Date: January 26, 2025 at 12:57:39
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: trump is at least talking ab out gaza. that's positive |
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i can't think as fast as i talk.
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Date: January 26, 2025 at 16:28:46
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: trump is at least talking ab out gaza. that's positive |
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is that to say nobody should listen to your words?
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Date: January 26, 2025 at 13:34:48
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: trump is at least talking ab out gaza. that's positive |
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