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Date: December 01, 2024 at 03:56:39
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "Israel (US?) is testing weapons on us that we do not recognize.."

URL: https://www.aljazeera.com


🚨BREAKING: Dr. Munir Al-Bursh, Director General of the Ministry of Health in
Gaza, to Al Jazeera:

“Israel is testing weapons on us that we do not recognize. They drop bombs
with terrifying sounds, and when a person gets within 200-300 meters of them,
they vaporize.

The massacres happening in northern Gaza are unknown to us until later.
Nobody calls to inform us. The Israeli army bombs entire residential blocks,
wiping out all their inhabitants, and we only find out about them a day or two
later.

When these weapons are used on residential buildings, they reduce them to
small fragments and rubble. We urgently need an international investigation
committee to uncover what ‘Israel’ is doing to us.”


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Date: December 01, 2024 at 15:59:06
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dirty secret of Israel’s weapons exports:They’re tested on Palestinian

URL: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/17/israels-weapons-industry-is-the-gaza-war-its-latest-test-lab


Dirty secret of Israel’s weapons exports: They’re tested on Palestinians

Weapons tested in each war Israel wages see a spike in global demand. The
current Gaza war is the latest laboratory for its arms industry.
Abdel Rahim Moussa, 62, was injured by an Israeli army tank shell
approximately a kilometre from the Gaza border with Israel, during the 2012
conflict.
Abdel Rahim Moussa, 62, was injured by an Israeli army tank shell
approximately a kilometre from the Gaza border with Israel, during the 2012
conflict [Paddy Dowling/Al Jazeera]
By Paddy Dowling
Published On 17 Nov 2023
17 Nov 2023
Amman, Jordan – The Israeli army released footage on October 22 of its
Maglan commando unit deploying a new precision-guided 120mm mortar
bomb called the Iron Sting, against Hamas in Gaza.

The bomb’s Haifa-based manufacturer, Elbit Systems, has been advertising its
qualities on the public relations page of its website since March 2021, when it
was integrated into the Israeli military.

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Benny Gantz, then Israel’s defence minister and now a part of Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu’s war cabinet, described the Iron Sting as “designed to
engage targets precisely, in both open terrains and urban environments, while
reducing the possibility of collateral damage and preventing injury to non-
combatants”.

It’s a claim echoed by Mark Regev, Netanyahu’s former spokesperson, for the
country’s overall approach to its war on Gaza, in which, he has said, Israel is
“trying to be as surgical as humanly possible”.

Yet, more than one month after Israel launched the aerial bombardment of Gaza
following a surprise Hamas attack, it has killed at least 11,400 Palestinian
civilians, and injured 30,000 in the besieged strip and the occupied West Bank.
More than 4,700 of Gaza’s children are dead. Hamas fighters killed 1,200
people in their October 7 attack.

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Israel’s devastatingly “surgical” killing machines, tested on Palestinians, have
global takers, say analysts.

An unspent casing from Israeli made drone rocket designed to explode on
impact ejecting metal cubes out from a copper canister. The projectile spools
out at a velocity designed to cut a human in half from the midriff.
An unspent casing from an Israeli Spike drone rocket designed to explode on
impact ejecting metal cubes from a copper canister. The projectile spools out at
a velocity that can cut a human in half [Paddy Dowling/Al Jazeera]
‘Tissue torn from flesh’
Ahmed Saeed al-Najar, 28, was driving his taxi in Rafah during Gaza’s third war
of 2014 when a drone missile came in through the open sunroof of his taxi. It
exploded in the car, instantly decapitating and killing all six of his passengers,
his best friend included.

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The car had been targeted by an Israeli Spike drone rocket, which can be
modified to carry a fragmentation sleeve of thousands of 3mm tungsten cubes,
said to affect an area of approximately 20 metres in diameter. The cubes
puncture metal and “cause tissue to be torn from flesh”, literally shredding
anyone within range, according to Erik Fosse, a Norwegian doctor working in
Gaza.

Al-Najar, rescued from the wreckage of his car, suffered extensive burns, the
loss of his right eye, multiple shrapnel wounds and the loss of his right leg from
the mid-thigh point, amputated by the blast.

But by 2014, drones that carry the Spike rocket had already become highly
sought-after by other countries.

The Heron TP “Eitan” drone is Israel’s largest unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV)
and was brought into service in 2007. Manufactured by the state-owned Israel
Aerospace Industries (IAI) — Israel’s largest aerospace and defence company
and the country’s largest industrial exporter – it can fly up to 40 hours
continuously and can carry four Spike missiles.

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The Eitan was first used during “Operation Cast Lead” in the 2008-09 Gaza
war for attacks against civilians, according to the non-governmental
organisation, Drone Wars UK. According to Defence for Children International,
of the 353 children killed and 860 injured during Operation Cast Lead, 116 died
from missiles launched by drones.

After the war, IAI witnessed a surge in orders of Heron variant drones from at
least 10 countries between 2008-2011. During this period, more than 100
drones were purchased, leased or acquired under joint venture schemes.

India – Israel’s largest military buyer, which operates more than 100 Israeli-
made UAVs – purchased 34 Heron drones in this period, followed by France
(24), Brazil (14) and Australia (10), according to a 2014 report by Drone Wars
UK.

That does not mean that Israel wages wars to advertise its weapons, said
experts. “Nobody fights wars just to show off their weapons,” said Lawrence
Freedman, emeritus professor of war studies at King’s College London.

Yet, at the same time, “in every war against Gaza a range of weapons and
surveillance tech has been deployed against the Palestinians which is then
marketed and sold to huge amounts of nations around the world,” said Antony
Loewenstein, independent journalist and author of The Palestine Laboratory.

Israeli soldiers look at an IAI Eitan, also known as the Heron TP, surveillance
unmanned air vehicle (UAV) on display at Tel Nof Air Force Base near Tel Aviv
Israeli soldiers look at an IAI Eitan, also known as the Heron TP, surveillance
unmanned air vehicle (UAV) on display at Tel Nof Airbase near Tel Aviv in
February, 2010 [Gil Cohen/Reuters]
‘An insurance policy’
Weapons exports have uses beyond the revenue they bring to Israel.

“It’s more than that, it’s also an insurance policy to insulate themselves from the
intense pressure to change their behaviour over the decades-long occupation
of Palestinians,” said Loewenstein.

Last month, Colombian President Gustavo Petro refused to condemn the
surprise attack launched by Hamas on October 7 as a “terrorist attack” instead
responding that “terrorism is killing innocent children in Palestine”.

In response, the Israeli government halted all sales of defence and security
equipment and associated services to the Latin American country.

Colombia is one of an estimated 130 countries that have bought weapons,
drones and cyberspying technology from Israel, the world’s 10th-largest
weapons exporter.

Israel is, by far, the world’s largest exporter of military drones: in 2017, it was
estimated that it was behind nearly two-thirds of all UAV exports over the
previous three decades.

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Elbit, the maker of the Iron Sting, provides up to 85 percent of the land-based
equipment procured by the Israeli military and about 85 percent of its drones,
according to Database of Israeli Military and Security Export (DIMSE).

But after the 2014 Gaza war, its export market expanded significantly, too. Elbit
promotes its Hermes UAVs as “combat-proven” and the “primary platform of
the IDF in counter-terror operations”.

The Hermes 450 and Hermes 900 were both used extensively in “Operation
Protective Edge”, Israel’s 2014 war, during which 37 percent of fatalities were
attributed to drone attacks, according to an estimate by the Gaza-based Al
Mezan Center for Human Rights.

Elbit subsequently secured contracts for the new Hermes 900 drone with more
than 20 countries worldwide including the Philippines, which purchased 13, as
well as India, Azerbaijan, Canada, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Iceland, the European
Union, Mexico, Switzerland and Thailand. In March 2023, Elbit Systems
announced their 120th order for the Hermes 900.

The new “Nizoz” (Spark) surveillance drone manufactured by Rafael, a state-
owned weapons contractor that forms the Big Three of Israel’s arms industry
with IAI and Elbit, has reportedly now entered the current Gaza war. Rafael has
an order backlog which currently stands at $10.1bn.

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Al Jazeera approached Elbit Systems, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and
IAI for comment but the firms were yet to respond before time of publication.

The destroyed remains of the al-Jawhara Tower in Gaza City’s Rimal
neighbourhood bombed in May 17, 2021 during Gaza’s fourth war [Paddy
Dowling/Al Jazeera]
The remains of the al-Jawhara Tower in Gaza City’s Remal neighbourhood,
which was bombed in May 17, 2021, during Gaza’s fourth war [Paddy
Dowling/Al Jazeera]
Hard to track
For all of its military export successes, the full extent of Israel’s defence
industry sales remains masked.

A report from Amnesty International in 2019 noted that the whole process by
which Israel sells arms is shrouded in secrecy “with no documentation of sales,
one cannot know when [these arms] were sold, by which company, how many
and so on”.

Amnesty found that “Israeli companies exported weapons which reached their
destination after a series of transactions, thereby skirting international
monitoring”.

Israel has not ratified the Arms Trade Treaty, which prohibits the sale of
weapons at risk of being used in genocide and crimes against humanity. As
such, its weapons exports have influenced the course of history for several
nations, many led by controversial regimes.

Israel sold weapons to the South African apartheid government in 1975 and
even agreed to supply nuclear warheads, according to declassified documents
– though Israel denies doing so. Napalm and other weapons were supplied to El
Salvador during its counterinsurgency wars between 1980-1992 that killed
more than 75,000 civilians.

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In 1994, Israeli-made bullets, rifles and grenades were allegedly used in
Rwanda’s genocide which killed at least 800,000 people. Israel supplied
weapons to the Serbian army that waged war against Bosnia from 1992-1995.

Despite the Israeli government’s own statement in 2018 declaring it had ceased
sales to Myanmar, the Haaretz newspaper reported last year that weapons
manufacturers continued supplying the military government until 2022, in
violation of the 2017 international arms embargo against the country.

And, in September this year, Israel supplied UAVs, missiles and mortars to
Azerbaijan for its campaign to recapture Nagorno-Karabakh, during which
100,000 ethnic Armenians were displaced.

Part of what makes it hard to track Israeli weapons exports is the very nature of
the arms trade. “Governments buy and sell to each other directly and through
their large defence contractors, but also there is a parallel trade by private firms
that is usually not illegal but provides plausible deniability,” Stephen Badsey,
professor of conflict studies at Wolverhampton University, said.

The largest single control that seller nations maintain over the use of their
weapons by other countries is the requirement for “end user” or “end use” rules,
Badsey said. But as a major weapons exporter that doesn’t subscribe to the
Arms Trade Treaty, Israel has built a reputation for loose export norms.

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In 2018, former Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte said he would ask his
military to purchase weapons exclusively from Israel because, unlike the United
States or Europe, Israel did not impose restrictions.

New government regulations introduced last year will allow Israel to sell more
weapons to a greater range of countries without licences – and so, with less
oversight. It pays: Israeli weapon export figures have doubled over the past
decade, totalling $12.5bn last year.

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Battle proven on ‘human animals’
Two days after the October 7 Hamas attack, Israel’s minister of defence Yoav
Gallant compared the Palestinian people with “human animals”.

To Loewenstein, the dehumanising comments were unsurprising. “It is obvious
over Israel’s occupation and countless wars that Palestinians are treated as
second-class citizens. Like animals,” he said.

Over the years, the Israeli army has tested rubber bullets, artificial intelligence-
powered robotic guns and various forms of crowd dispersal solutions, which
have inflicted severe injuries on Palestinians.

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Nabeel al-Shawa, a consultant orthopaedic surgeon who has worked in Gaza
since 1978, treated many Palestinians wounded by Israeli firing on the Great
March of Return in 2018 – when tens of thousands of Palestinians demanded
they be allowed to return to the land they were forcibly removed from in 1948.

“For Israeli snipers, this was merely target practice with humans,” he said.
“Most patients had been shot in joints deliberately to cause maximum damage,
but not kill.

“These new rounds the Israeli army used caused injuries I have never seen
before. In some cases the limb appeared intact, however, during surgery, I could
not distinguish between bone and soft tissue.”

So can Israeli weapons manufacturers legitimately market their weaponry as
“battle proven” when the combat often targets unarmed civilians?

They can, said Zoran Kusovac, a geopolitical and security analyst.

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“If a weapon’s main purpose is proven in the actual battlefield or in as near
realistic circumstances as possible, then they are battle proven,” he said. “You
cannot blame countries for buying from Israel. You can test all you want in a lab,
but Israel is testing in the field, and as there are never any lags of time between
one period of combat to the next, the development cycle is virtually in real time.

“And there is of course that adage; that if it’s good enough for the IDF, then it
must be good enough for us.”

Sharp metal cube projectiles which are ejected from an Israeli designed Spike
drone rocket [Paddy Dowling/Al Jazeera]
Sharp metal cube projectiles which are ejected from an Israeli-designed Spike
drone rocket [Paddy Dowling/Al Jazeera]
New weapons test in Gaza 2023?
Ashraf al-Qudra, spokesperson for the Ministry of Health in Gaza, last week
said in a press statement that medical teams in the enclave had “observed
severe burns on the bodies of Palestinians who were killed and wounded by
Israel’s bombs – whether caused by an unknown weapon or not – is something
they have not seen in previous conflicts”.

Dr Ahmed el-Mokhallalati from the burn and plastic surgery division at al-Shifa
Hospital, in an interview with the Toronto Star, described the wounds as “very
deep – third and fourth-degree burns, and the skin tissue is impregnated with
black particles and most of the skin thickness and all the layers underneath are
burned down to the bone”.

El-Mokhallalati said that these weren’t phosphorus burns, “but a combination
of some kind of incendiary bomb wave and other components”.

The Israeli military has not commented so far on the statement made by Gaza’s
Ministry. But the mystery incendiary bombs, the Iron Sting’s debut and the
reported use of the new Spark drone in the current war suggest that Israel is
once again testing new weapons in conflict.

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“Israel’s weapons will continue to remain attractive to international buyers
based on performance in the occupation,” Loewenstein said. “But Israel is not
just selling weapons; they’re selling the ideology to other countries – of getting
away with it.”

SOURCE: AL JAZEERA


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56578


Date: December 01, 2024 at 13:03:05
From: Joe, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Do the clothes vaporize too?


The Israelis are probably more adept at corpse retrieval
since they control the area. They don't want them counted
as that is part of the propaganda war so they are disposed
of in unknown locations.


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56571


Date: December 01, 2024 at 04:05:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: new weapons cause bodies to evaporate on the scene. . .

URL: https://x.com/HossamShabat


Journalist, حسام شبات
@HossamShabat
·
Nov 30
After speaking with first responders and doctors in northern Gaza, many are
reporting that Israeli forces are using new weapons that cause bodies to
evaporate on the scene. They describe it as something they have never seen
before.


حسام شبات
@HossamShabat
The rubble of the house I’m standing on in this video was six stories tall. Civil
defense was unable to retrieve any bodies with their limited supplies. It’s
important to note that bodies not retrieved from under the rubble do not count
in the official death toll in Gaza. That’s why the reported number of deaths is
much higher, as there are thousands of bodies still under the rubble.


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56573


Date: December 01, 2024 at 10:24:23
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new weapons cause bodies to evaporate on the scene. . .

URL: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gaza+bomb+bodies+evaporate+snopes&t=ftsa&ia=web



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56581


Date: December 01, 2024 at 16:01:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: lol


you've become so intellectually lazy you clearly don't even bother to read what
you post


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56574


Date: December 01, 2024 at 10:41:22
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: didn't show any videos...


your snores refers to a 2023 video


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56586


Date: December 01, 2024 at 18:39:09
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: didn't show any videos...


they were vaporized also...poof...


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56572


Date: December 01, 2024 at 10:21:18
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new weapons cause bodies to evaporate on the scene. . .


i imagine if the bodies "evaporate" that explains why the doctors have never seen it before...


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56575


Date: December 01, 2024 at 10:42:55
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new weapons cause bodies to evaporate on the scene. . .


to rubble, jerk. Ever hear of hyperbole?


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56576


Date: December 01, 2024 at 11:25:25
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new weapons cause bodies to evaporate on the scene. . .


ever hear of bullshit?


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