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Date: November 17, 2024 at 15:14:24
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range missiles

URL: https://apnews.com/article/biden-ukraine-long-range-weapons-russia-52d424158182de2044ecc8bfcf011f9c


I can't wait for this pos to be gone...

Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US-supplied long-range missiles for deeper
strikes inside Russia

BY AAMER MADHANI, COLLEEN LONG, ZEKE MILLER, MATTHEW LEE AND
ELLEN KNICKMEYER
Updated 5:04 PM EST, November 17, 2024
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MANAUS, Brazil (AP) — President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use U.S.-
supplied long-range missiles to strike deeper inside Russia, easing limitations on
the weapons as Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to reinforce its
war, according to a U.S. official and three other people familiar with the matter.

The decision allowing Kyiv to use the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMs,
for attacks farther inside Russia comes as President Vladimir Putin positions
North Korean troops along Ukraine’s northern border to try to reclaim hundreds of
miles of territory seized by Ukrainian forces.

Biden’s move also follows the presidential election victory of Donald Trump, who
has said he would bring about a swift end to the war and raised uncertainty about
whether his administration would continue the United States’ vital military
support for Ukraine.

The official and the others knowledgeable about the matter were not authorized
to discuss the U.S. decision publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s reaction Sunday was notably
restrained.


About 8,000 North Korean troops at Ukraine's border are expected in combat in
days, US says
US says it intends to shore up support for Ukraine until Trump takes office
US says it intends to shore up support for Ukraine until Trump takes office
“Strikes are not made with words,” he said during his nightly video address. “Such
things are not announced. The missiles will speak for themselves.”

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Zelenskyy and many of his Western supporters have been pressing Biden for
months to allow Ukraine to strike military targets deeper inside Russia with
Western-supplied missiles, saying the U.S. ban had made it impossible for
Ukraine to try to stop Russian attacks on its cities and electrical grids.

Zelenskyy’s statement came shortly after he posted a message of condolence on
Telegram following a Russian attack on a nine-story building that killed at least
eight people in the northern city of Sumy, 40 kilometres (24 miles) from the
border with Russia.

Russia also launched a massive drone and missile attack, described by officials
as the largest in recent months, targeting energy infrastructure and killing
civilians. The attack came as fears are mounting about Moscow’s intentions to
devastate Ukraine’s power generation capacity before the winter.

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“And this is the answer to everyone who tried to achieve something with Putin
through talks, phone calls, hugs, and appeasement,” Zelenskyy said.

Some supporters have argued that the limitation and other U.S. constraints could
cost Ukraine the war. The debate has become a source of disagreement among
Ukraine’s NATO allies.

Biden had remained opposed, determined to hold the line against any escalation
that he felt could draw the U.S. and other NATO members into direct conflict with
nuclear-armed Russia.

News of Biden’s decision followed meetings over the last two days with the
leaders of South Korea, Japan and China. The addition of North Korean troops
was central to the talks, which took place on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific
Economic Cooperation summit in Peru.

Biden did not mention the decision during a speech at a stop in the Amazon
rainforest in Brazil on his way to the Group of 20 summit.

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Asked about the decision, U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said in a
press conference that the body’s position is “to avoid a permanent deterioration
of the war in Ukraine.”

“We want peace, we want fair peace,” Guterres said on Sunday before the summit
in Rio de Janeiro. He didn’t elaborate.

The longer-range missiles are likely to be used in response to North Korea’s
decision to support Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, according to one of the people
familiar with the development.

The overall supply of ATACMS missiles is short, so U.S. officials in the past have
questioned whether they could give Ukraine enough to make a difference. Some
supporters of Ukraine say that even a few long-range strikes deeper inside
Russia would force its military to change deployments and expend more of its
resources.

North Korea has provided thousands of troops to Russia to help Moscow try to
claw back land in the Kursk border region that Ukraine seized this year. The
introduction of North Korean troops to the conflict comes as Moscow has seen a
favorable shift in momentum. Trump has signaled that he could push Ukraine to
agree to give up some land seized by Russia to find an end to the conflict.

As many as 12,000 North Korean troops have been sent to Russia, according to
U.S., South Korean and Ukrainian assessments. U.S. and South Korean
intelligence officials say North Korea also has provided Russia with significant
amounts of munitions to replenish its dwindling weapons stockpiles.

Trump, who takes office in January, spoke for months as a candidate about
wanting Russia’s war in Ukraine to be over, but he mostly ducked questions about
whether he wanted U.S. ally Ukraine to win.

He also repeatedly slammed the Biden administration for giving Kyiv tens of
billions of dollars in aid. His victory has Ukraine’s international backers worrying
that any rushed settlement would mostly benefit Putin.

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America is Ukraine’s most valuable ally in the war, providing more than $56.2
billion in security assistance since Russian forces invaded in February 2022.

Worried about Russia’s response, however, the Biden administration repeatedly
has delayed providing some specific advanced weapons sought by Ukraine,
agreeing only under pressure from Kyiv, its supporters and in consultation with
allies.

That includes initially refusing Zelenskyy’s pleas for advanced tanks, Patriot air
defense systems and F-16 fighter jets, among other systems.

The White House agreed in May to allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weaponry
for limited strikes just across the border with Russia.


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56411


Date: November 17, 2024 at 15:37:14
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...


why, so you can have rump holding the reins?


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56431


Date: November 18, 2024 at 11:57:05
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...


the thread topic is about the current president.


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56420


Date: November 18, 2024 at 02:33:46
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Genocide Joe wants war

URL: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/world/middleeast/elon-musk-iran-trump.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes


Biden never saw a war he didn't support. Good riddance.

meanwhile...

Musk met with Iran’s UN ambassador to discuss defusing Iranian-U.S. ..

excerpt:
Eric Lee/The New York Times
By Farnaz Fassihi
Nov. 14, 2024

"Elon Musk, a close adviser to President-elect Donald J. Trump, met with Iran’s
ambassador to the United Nations on Monday in New York in a session that two
Iranian officials described as a discussion of how to defuse tensions between
Iran and the United States.

The Iranians said the meeting between Mr. Musk and Ambassador Amir Saeid
Iravani lasted more than an hour and was held at a secret location. The Iranians,
who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to
discuss policy publicly, described the meeting as “positive” and “good news.”

Asked about whether there was such a session, Steven Cheung, Mr. Trump’s
communications director, said, “We do not comment on reports of private
meetings that did or did not occur.” Mr. Musk did not respond to a request for
comment."


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56426


Date: November 18, 2024 at 09:23:12
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war


i believe it is illegal for him to do this until rump is sworn in...


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56427


Date: November 18, 2024 at 09:28:04
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war


Like that matters to them?

They could give a shit about the constitution or laws.
They think themselves invincible, entitled and immortal.


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56429


Date: November 18, 2024 at 09:50:10
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war


yah, that is where we are now...chilling to say the least...


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56423


Date: November 18, 2024 at 09:12:51
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war, and Trump wants bigger war

URL: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/12/us-legislators-to-vote-on-bill-targeting-terrorist-supporting-nonprofits


Did you see where congress attempted to pass a bill in
preparation for Trump's arrival? It'll declare any non-
profit that funds pro-gaza or anti-Israel sentiments
domestic terrorism, and take away their tax exempt
status.

This bill will be back after Jan. 20th, no doubt.

While you're going on and on about Joe, and there are
honest criticism there, the bigger monster is about to
enter stage right. You act like there's no one
worse..and you're about to see someone who is, much
worse.

It's like someone hating and kicking at a rat and
ignoring the bear behind them.

Guess protesters should get all their shouting out now.
If you go out and protest after jan 20, I would wear a
kevlar vest.


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56422


Date: November 18, 2024 at 02:40:05
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: oh no, what if he succeeds? the horrors!(NT)


(NT)


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56412


Date: November 17, 2024 at 16:57:03
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...




Capitulation ala Vichy... good for a while.

Haven't we seen this movie before?


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56413


Date: November 17, 2024 at 17:43:41
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France


hmmm...

Vichy France (French: Régime de Vichy; 10 July 1940 – 9 August 1944), officially the French State (État français), was the French rump state ...

touché!


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56415


Date: November 17, 2024 at 18:15:46
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...

URL: https://youtu.be/-UkHwjz4i1k?si=yka3biKLRrg8_sIe




That's the one.

If half of us are Vichy, who will be left to support
our DeGaulle?

Move from the coast, Ryan, to the center of the country
or at least the eastern foothills of the Andes,
considered by the CIA to be the most survivorable spot
in case of nuclear war, due to winds, etc., but that
was before global warming, so who knows.

link is to Thomas Banyacya, I heard him speak and warn
of the man in the red hat.



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56418


Date: November 17, 2024 at 18:42:05
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...


OK perhaps? we get strong clearing winds from the north here...may help...


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56416


Date: November 17, 2024 at 18:29:45
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...


i'm too old to run..i'll sit on the porch with my rifle like gurdjieff's father did when the cossacks came knockin'...course they killed him...lol...


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Date: November 17, 2024 at 20:18:23
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Genocide Joe wants war with Russia.. authorizes long-range...




The force be with you!




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