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Date: October 29, 2024 at 14:01:03
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
URL: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/28/taliban-bans-women-from-hearing-each-others-voices/ |
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The Taliban has banned women from hearing other women’s
voices in its latest attempt to impose a hardline
version of Islamic law on Afghanistan.
In a rambling voice message on Monday, the country’s
minister for the promotion of virtue and prevention of
vice announced the bizarre new restriction on women’s
behaviour.
Although precise details of the Taliban’s ruling are
unclear, Afghan human rights activists have warned it
could mean women are effectively banned from holding
conversations with one another.
In his message, minister Khalid Hanafi said: “Even when
an adult female prays and another female passes by, she
must not pray loudly enough for them to hear.”
“How could they be allowed to sing if they aren’t even
permitted to hear [each other’s] voices while praying,
let alone for anything else.”
He said these are “new rules and will be gradually
implemented, and God will be helping us in each step we
take”.
As the Taliban has banned living beings from being
shown on television, his message was delivered via
voice recording instead of a television broadcast.
“How are women who are the sole providers for their
families supposed to buy bread, seek medical care or
simply exist if even their voices are forbidden?” one
activist said in response.
“Whatever he says is a form of mental torture for us,”
an Afghan woman in Kabul told The Telegraph.
“Living in Afghanistan is incredibly painful for us as
women. Afghanistan is forgotten, and that’s why they
are suppressing us – they are torturing us on a daily
basis.”
“They say we cannot hear other women’s voices, and I do
not understand where these views come from,” she added.
Since taking power in Aug 2021, the Taliban has
systematically restricted women’s rights in
Afghanistan.
Women have already been ordered to cover their faces
“to avoid temptation and tempting others” and refrain
from speaking in the presence of unfamiliar men who are
not husbands or close relatives.
“If it is necessary for women to leave their homes,
they must cover their faces and voices from men” and be
accompanied by a “male guardian”, according to the
rules approved by the Taliban’s supreme leader.
Afghan women have also been ordered not to speak loudly
inside their homes, to prevent their voices from being
heard outside.
Women who defy the new rules will be arrested and sent
to prison, the Taliban said.
In July 2024, a UN report said the ministry for
promoting virtue and preventing vice was contributing
to a climate of fear and intimidation among Afghans
through its edicts and the methods used to enforce
them.
The Taliban’s supreme leader has also vowed to start
stoning women to death in public.
“They [the Taliban] are waging an all-out war against
us, and we have no one in the world to hear our
voices,” a former civil servant told The Telegraph from
Kabul.
“The world has abandoned us,” she added. “They left us
to the Taliban, and whatever happens to us now is a
result of Western government policies.”
‘Many women are taking their lives’
“I feel depressed. The world is advancing in technology
and having fun with their lives, but here we cannot
even hear each other’s voices,” she said.
“They want us not to exist at all, and there’s nothing
we can do about it,” another woman in western Herat
province said.
“They may succeed at some point, as many are taking
their lives due to the pressure,” she added
“They think ruling Afghanistan is only about
suppressing women – we didn’t commit a crime by being
born as women,” she said.
The increased restrictions imposed by the Taliban’s
supreme leader have caused discord within the Taliban’s
own ranks.
A senior Taliban official told The Telegraph of
frustration from moderates with the more hardline
elements of the regime.
“Someone should stop the supreme leader. Many within
the Taliban are angry and worried that, with everything
the leadership is doing, we could lose Afghanistan as
quickly as we took it,” he added.
More at link.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 08:47:32
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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What an awful awful male interpreted dominated society
that is - and I feel for the women who are literally
captive there.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 12:34:07
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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Yes. My biggest regret of our own troops leaving
Afghanistan is leaving all those girls and women behind
to suffer through the Taliban.
Remember, the Taliban promised they would not oppress
women again like they had the last time.
Which, obviously, total bullshit again. We knew that.
The women there knew that.
Now, I'm worried about our own "American Taliban" (aka:
the far right Christian nationalist movement) bringing
this to our own country and removing our own rights
piece by piece.
My heart goes out to the women in Afghanistan. We may
have more in common than we realize at this point.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 09:00:37
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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Absolutely reprehensible...untenable...cannot possibly hold
water for long...
Cowards to the bone, each and every one of them... Using
religion to suppress the power of women because they're so
terrified of them...
...they're the ones who'll be terrified, in the end, bless
their poor hearts -- not because women will have their
revenge once the tables have turned, but because they will
then *have no choice* but to surrender to the Truth that
Divine Feminine wisdom must be part of their lives, and
live in cocreative, cooperative Balance with women...
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 11:48:53
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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How could they do that to their
mothers
and sisters
and baby girls?
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 12:37:11
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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They are the new (or an old one) slave class.
Women throughout human history have been bought and
sold, told who to marry, used, oppressed, no voice.
This is a very old story that not only happens in
Afghanistan, but still in other places in our world.
This is a warning to all women who cherish their freedom
and wish to keep it here.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 19:25:09
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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It must be for some kind of revenue, humans aren't
treated that way, only slaves/livestock, and by people
who lost their hearts with their souls.
All those sick bitches voting for trump should take
notice, as if the death today of another Texas woman in
process of miscarriage who couldn't get medical care
wasn't a wake up call.
My apologies if the language is rough, I've seen too
much of this macho behavior in my life.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 19:46:02
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:42:25
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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Okay, only because we were so close to getting the ERA
passed when Phyllis Schafly and others of the twisted
sisterhood that thought more of a patriarchal spin of a
religion than the living, breathing women and girls
around them.
Not so different from the Taliban in spirit, just
detail.
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Date: October 30, 2024 at 12:25:45
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’ |
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I'm happily unfamiliar with the actual tenets of the
Pashtun sect of Islam, that the Taliban follows (from
what I'm seeing at a casual search), but no doubt little
boys are indoctrinated by their fathers/religious leaders
in their earliest years to see women...well, as they
do...even their mothers, sisters and daughters...
I mean, obviously, what females endure within that regime
is unspeakable...end of... But yes, right alongside that,
when I imagine what those tiny boys must endure...I mean,
there are more- and less-sensitive souls amongst every
population, of course, and perhaps some little guys
simply accept such utterly unnatural conditioning because
they obviously have no choice, especially with what's
presented being so overwhelming, so sealed and
limited...but I know there have to be little boys for
whom this perverse teaching being forced upon them has to
be beyond-words hellish and excruciating...their
intuitive truthsenses screaching in protest...and they
know they cannot speak a word of protest, when what has
been presented conceptually becomes experiential when
applied to their own female relatives.....
And as they become men, it all solidifies.....
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