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Date: October 24, 2024 at 17:28:22
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: lol, this aged well |
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:07:29
From: ao
Subject: Biden lays out Israeli ceasefire proposal
URL: At this point, Hamas no longer is capable of carrying out another October
7
Full Headline: Biden says it’s ‘time for this war to end’ as he lays out Israeli
ceasefire proposal
President Joe Biden asserted Friday that Hamas has been degraded to a
point where it can no longer carry out the type of attack that launched the
current 8-month conflict in Gaza, laying out a three-phase proposal Israel
has submitted to wind down the grinding crisis as he declared, “It’s time for
this war to end.
It was perhaps the furthest Biden has gone in telling Israel its stated goals
for its operation in Gaza have been met, and that the time has arrived to
stop the fighting as part of a hostage deal.
“At this point, Hamas no longer is capable of carrying out another October 7,
just one of Israel’s main objectives in this war, and quite frankly a righteous
one,” Biden said at the White House.
He had just laid out a three-phase Israeli proposal that would pair a release
of hostages with a “full and complete ceasefire,” a plan he said presented
the best hope to bring peace to Gaza.
“This is truly a decisive moment,” he said.
Biden said the Israeli proposal was transmitted this week. The first phase
would last six weeks and include the “withdrawal of Israeli forces from all
populated areas of Gaza” and “release of a number of hostages including
women, the elderly, the wounded in exchange for the release of hundreds of
Palestinian prisoners.”
He said Phase 2 would allow for the “exchange for the release of all
remaining living hostages, including male soldiers.”
“And as long as Hamas lives up to its commitments, the temporary ceasefire
would become, in the words of the Israeli proposals, ‘the cessation of
hostilities permanently,’” Biden said.
In Phase 3, the president said, a “major reconstruction plan for Gaza would
commence and any final remains of hostages who’ve been killed will be
returned to their families.”
Indirect talks between Israel and Hamas on securing the hostages’ release
were paused three weeks ago without a deal after the sides could not come
to an agreement on some of the terms.
On Thursday, Hamas said it had informed mediators that it is “prepared to
reach a comprehensive agreement” that includes a full hostage and prisoner
exchange deal if Israel stops its war in Gaza.
A statement from the group said while it had shown “flexibility and positivity
in dealing with the efforts of the mediators throughout all previous rounds
of indirect negotiations.” Israel, Hamas said, had used the months of
ongoing talks as a cover to continue its war in Gaza.
“Hamas and the Palestinian factions will not accept being part of this policy
of continuous negotiations in the face of aggression, killing, siege,
starvation, and genocide of our people,” the Hamas statement said.
Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly insisted that the
war must continue until Hamas is completely destroyed.
In his speech from the White House, Biden acknowledged internal divisions
inside Israel that could prevent a hostage deal from being agreed it.
“I know there are those in Israel who will not agree with this plan. And will
call for the war to continue indefinitely. Some, some are even in the
government coalition,” he said, an unsubtle reference to hardliners in
Netanyahu’s government who have resisted efforts to mediate an end to the
conflict.
“They made it clear they want to occupy Gaza. They want to keep fighting
for years and the hostages are not a priority to them,” Biden said.
Though he did not name anyone in his speech, Biden has previously singled
out National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir as among those in
Netanyahu’s governing coalition who are making any progress difficult.
In his speech, Biden made a direct appeal to ordinary Israelis to voice their
support for a hostage agreement that would result in a ceasefire.
“I need your help. Everyone who wants peace now must raise their voices
and let the leaders know they should take this deal. Work to make it real,
make it lasting, and forge a better future out of the tragic terror attack and
war,” he said. “It’s time to begin this new stage. The hostages to come
home for Israel to be secure in a suffering to stop.”
Biden spoke directly to Americans as well who have criticized the violence in
Gaza, admitting that too many civilians had been killed and calling the
situation “one of the hardest, most complicated problems in the world.”
“We all saw the terrible images from a deadly fire in Rafah earlier this week
following an Israeli strike … targeting Hamas,” Biden said, in his first
comments since a strike left dozens of civilians dead. “Even as we worked
to surge assistance to Gaza … the humanitarian crisis still remains.”
The president, who returned to the White House from his beach home in
Delaware earlier in the morning, had avoided commenting on the situation in
Israel for several days.
Earlier on Friday, Israel said its forces have entered central Rafah, the city in
southern Gaza that Biden has warned should not be the target of a major
ground offensive.
The White House called images from the disaster “heartbreaking” but said
the incident had not crossed Biden’s red line for withholding some US
weapons shipments to Israel.
The president told CNN’s Erin Burnett in an interview this month that he
would limit some US arms to Israel if the country’s military “go into Rafah.”
But he has remained vague about how he will quantify such a decision,
leading to frustrations and a degree of confusion over his stance. Many
Democrats, along with foreign leaders who the US counts as allies, say
Israel’s actions clearly cross a red line – if not Biden’s, then their own and
those of international law.
White House officials have sought this week to explain Biden’s stance,
suggesting his barometer for changing policy would be a “major ground
invasion” of the city.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 07:10:26
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: lol, this aged well |
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i listened to a former Israeli govt official says the
biden plan is dead. and how in hamas is able to
negotiate? are hamas and nihad able to communicate with
one another? or themselves? any communication by air
or internet will result in rockets to kill them. thee
war is ovwer so israel continuing means israel wants
genocide of Palestine.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 07:22:40
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: and how in hamas is able to negotiate? |
URL: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/31/middleeast/ismail-haniyeh-death-hamas-profile-intl-hnk/index.html |
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Israel has no interest in a ceasefire a releasing hostages. Their repeatedly
stated goal is to kill as many Palestinians as possible, terrorize the rest and steal
all of their land.
Some of the us/Israel genocide defenders here like to pretend Israel just wants
to get rid of Hamas. They keep repeating it. 'but hamas'. it's a ridiculous lie.
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CNN
"Ismail Haniyeh, political leader of Hamas since 2017, has been the most visible
leader of the group during Israel’s war in Gaza, and was key in ongoing
ceasefire and hostage release negotiations."
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 12:50:44
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: and how in hamas is able to negotiate? |
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israel wants gaza because of the off shore oil. that
would be enough to clean and rebuild gaza.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 13:06:08
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: and how in hamas is able to negotiate? |
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most likely. And the settlers would be happy with the waterfront property.
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