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Date: October 10, 2024 at 15:45:40
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Stop Israel from bombing Iran's oil sites, Gulf states urge US |
URL: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/stop-israel-bombing-irans-oil-sites-gulf-states-urge-us-2024-10-10/ |
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Gulf states are lobbying Washington to stop Israel from attacking Iran's oil sites because they are concerned their own oil facilities could come under fire from Tehran's proxies if the conflict escalates, three Gulf sources told Reuters.
As part of their attempts to avoid being caught in the crossfire, Gulf states including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar are also refusing to let Israel fly over their airspace for any attack on Iran and have conveyed this to Washington, the three sources close to government circles said.
Israel has promised Iran will pay for its missile attack last week while Tehran has said any retaliation would be met with vast destruction, raising fears of a wider war in the region that could suck in the United States.
The moves by the Gulf states come after a diplomatic push by non-Arab Shi'ite Iran to persuade its Sunni Gulf neighbours to use their influence with Washington amid rising concerns Israel could target Iran's oil production facilities.
During meetings this week, Iran warned Saudi Arabia it could not guarantee the safety of the Gulf kingdom's oil facilities if Israel were given any assistance in carrying out an attack, a senior Iranian official and an Iranian diplomat told Reuters.
Ali Shihabi, a Saudi analyst close to the Saudi royal court, said: "The Iranians have stated: 'If the Gulf states open up their airspace to Israel, that would be an act of war'."
The diplomat said Tehran had sent a clear message to Riyadh that its allies in countries such as Iraq or Yemen might respond if there was any regional support for Israel against Iran.
A potential Israeli strike was the focus of talks on Wednesday between Saudi de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi, who was on a Gulf tour to rally support, Gulf and Iranian sources said.
The Iranian minister's visit, along with Saudi-American communications at defence ministry level, are part of a coordinated effort to address the crisis, a Gulf source close to government circles told Reuters.
A person in Washington familiar with the discussions confirmed that Gulf officials had been in touch with U.S. counterparts to express concern about the potential scope of Israel's expected retaliation.
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Date: October 10, 2024 at 16:11:19
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: BBC: Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil fac |
URL: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rljzepw5yo |
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I saw this clip yesterday. I don't know why it still shocks me to see a US president in this condition, but it did. He couldn't finish the sentence.
7 days ago
Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil facilities
Tom Bennett - BBC News Reporting fromLondon
"Joe Biden has said the US is discussing with Israel the possibility of Israeli strikes on Iran’s oil infrastructure.
When asked if he would support such strikes, Mr Biden said: "We're discussing that. I think that would be a little... anyway."
His off-the-cuff remarks, made as he left the White House, did not make clear Washington’s stance. Mr Biden has previously said he would not support Israeli strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.
The price of benchmark Brent crude oil shot up by 5% immediately after the remarks. It has now increased by 10% since Iran’s large-scale missile attack on Israel on Tuesday.
Faisal Islam: Oil price rise comes at a critical point Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Iran "will pay a heavy price” for Tuesday’s attack, which saw at least 180 ballistic missiles fired at Israel.
Satellite imagery published by the Associated Press news agency showed damage to the Nevatim airbase, one of the targets of the attack.
Iran said the barrage was a response to the killings of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps commander Brig-Gen Abbas Nilforoushan.
Mr Biden told reporters that he was not expecting Israel to launch its retaliation on Thursday.
Asked as he left the White House what plans the US had to allow Israel to strike Iran, he responded: "First of all, we don’t allow Israel, we advise Israel and there’s nothing that’s going to happen today."
A US official told Reuters news agency the US believes Israel is “still determining what exactly they will do.”
Mr Biden earlier said the US did not support strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, as touted by some in Israel, including former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett.
Bennett argued striking Iran's nuclear facilities could "help change the face of the Middle East" and “fatally cripple this terrorist regime”.
Reports in Israeli media citing local officials suggest Israel plans to first strike Iran’s oil facilities. If Iran then hits back, Israel will target its nuclear facilities. Speaking on Wednesday, Iran's chief of staff Maj Gen Mohammad Bagheri told state TV that it would hit infrastructure across Israel if it retaliates.
The barrage "will be repeated with bigger intensity and all infrastructure of the regime will be targeted", Mr Bagheri said.
Mr Biden said on Wednesday he had consulted with the leaders of other G7 countries, who agreed Israel "has the right to respond, but they should respond proportionally".
Fears over further violence between Israel and Iran, the world’s seventh largest oil producer, have put markets on edge.
Of particular concern is whether any escalation could block the Straits of Hormuz, through which a third of oil tanker traffic and a fifth of LNG frozen gas has to pass."
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Date: October 10, 2024 at 20:13:53
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: BBC: Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran... |
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As to Bidens speech problems, *rump normalized the bizarre, incoherent and worse a long time ago. Biden would have to do much something more than search for a word to shock me.
"Bennett argued striking Iran's nuclear facilities could "help change the face of the Middle East" and “fatally cripple this terrorist regime”.
This is tantamount to nuclear war. Did anyone tell Bennett that friends of Iran have thousands of nuclear bombs, with boats and planes to put them in range of Israel?
OMG. The whole lot is criminally insane. There are bad people on both sides.
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Date: October 11, 2024 at 10:51:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem |
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needing to mischaracterize & minimize President Biden's cognitive impairment is typical of your mo lately, mitra. pretend, dismiss, deflect blame. Trump. Russia. Hamas. It's fascinating.
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Date: October 11, 2024 at 23:47:33
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem |
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Just hitting the balls you're pitching.
Biden may search for a word or not finish a sentence, so what?
He keeps our international alliances safe. He respects veterans, works for the people, repairing infrastructure, so many good things he's done, not the least is just be reasonable. And Jill has been a respectful first lady
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Date: October 11, 2024 at 12:21:40
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem |
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mitra..it looks like you've made Akira's enemy list! It's big, and you're in great company.
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Date: October 12, 2024 at 08:36:15
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem |
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Thank you for this honor.
I wish to thank Mr. Bopp for providing this beautiful venue, you, of course, Red, AO and Shadow for their never ending inspiration and the others who are around us and have gone before us, we stand on the shoulders of giants.
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Date: October 11, 2024 at 10:54:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem |
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As if your own M.O. is less fascinating...
...lololol...
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