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Date: October 10, 2024 at 15:45:40
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Stop Israel from bombing Iran's oil sites, Gulf states urge US

URL: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/stop-israel-bombing-irans-oil-sites-gulf-states-urge-us-2024-10-10/




Gulf states are lobbying Washington to stop Israel from
attacking Iran's oil sites because they are concerned
their own oil facilities could come under fire from
Tehran's proxies if the conflict escalates, three Gulf
sources told Reuters.

As part of their attempts to avoid being caught in the
crossfire, Gulf states including Saudi Arabia, the
United Arab Emirates and Qatar are also refusing to let
Israel fly over their airspace for any attack on Iran
and have conveyed this to Washington, the three sources
close to government circles said.

Israel has promised Iran will pay for its missile
attack last week while Tehran has said any retaliation
would be met with vast destruction, raising fears of a
wider war in the region that could suck in the United
States.

The moves by the Gulf states come after a diplomatic
push by non-Arab Shi'ite Iran to persuade its Sunni
Gulf neighbours to use their influence with Washington
amid rising concerns Israel could target Iran's oil
production facilities.

During meetings this week, Iran warned Saudi Arabia it
could not guarantee the safety of the Gulf kingdom's
oil facilities if Israel were given any assistance in
carrying out an attack, a senior Iranian official and
an Iranian diplomat told Reuters.

Ali Shihabi, a Saudi analyst close to the Saudi royal
court, said: "The Iranians have stated: 'If the Gulf
states open up their airspace to Israel, that would be
an act of war'."

The diplomat said Tehran had sent a clear message to
Riyadh that its allies in countries such as Iraq or
Yemen might respond if there was any regional support
for Israel against Iran.

A potential Israeli strike was the focus of talks on
Wednesday between Saudi de facto ruler, Crown Prince
Mohammed bin Salman, and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas
Araqchi, who was on a Gulf tour to rally support, Gulf
and Iranian sources said.

The Iranian minister's visit, along with Saudi-American
communications at defence ministry level, are part of a
coordinated effort to address the crisis, a Gulf source
close to government circles told Reuters.

A person in Washington familiar with the discussions
confirmed that Gulf officials had been in touch with
U.S. counterparts to express concern about the
potential scope of Israel's expected retaliation.



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55883


Date: October 10, 2024 at 16:11:19
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: BBC: Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil fac

URL: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rljzepw5yo


I saw this clip yesterday. I don't know why it still shocks me to see a US
president in this condition, but it did. He couldn't finish the sentence.

7 days ago

Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil facilities

Tom Bennett - BBC News
Reporting fromLondon

"Joe Biden has said the US is discussing with Israel the possibility of Israeli
strikes on Iran’s oil infrastructure.

When asked if he would support such strikes, Mr Biden said: "We're
discussing that. I think that would be a little... anyway."


His off-the-cuff remarks, made as he left the White House, did not make clear
Washington’s stance. Mr Biden has previously said he would not support Israeli
strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.

The price of benchmark Brent crude oil shot up by 5% immediately after the
remarks. It has now increased by 10% since Iran’s large-scale missile attack on
Israel on Tuesday.

Faisal Islam: Oil price rise comes at a critical point
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Iran "will pay a heavy price” for
Tuesday’s attack, which saw at least 180 ballistic missiles fired at Israel.

Satellite imagery published by the Associated Press news agency showed
damage to the Nevatim airbase, one of the targets of the attack.

Iran said the barrage was a response to the killings of Hamas political leader
Ismail Haniyeh, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and Iranian Revolutionary
Guards Corps commander Brig-Gen Abbas Nilforoushan.

Mr Biden told reporters that he was not expecting Israel to launch its retaliation
on Thursday.

Asked as he left the White House what plans the US had to allow Israel to strike
Iran, he responded: "First of all, we don’t allow Israel, we advise Israel and
there’s nothing that’s going to happen today."

A US official told Reuters news agency the US believes Israel is “still
determining what exactly they will do.”

Mr Biden earlier said the US did not support strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities,
as touted by some in Israel, including former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett.

Bennett argued striking Iran's nuclear facilities could "help change the face of
the Middle East" and “fatally cripple this terrorist regime”.

Reports in Israeli media citing local officials suggest Israel plans to first strike
Iran’s oil facilities. If Iran then hits back, Israel will target its nuclear facilities.
Speaking on Wednesday, Iran's chief of staff Maj Gen Mohammad Bagheri told
state TV that it would hit infrastructure across Israel if it retaliates.

The barrage "will be repeated with bigger intensity and all infrastructure of the
regime will be targeted", Mr Bagheri said.

Mr Biden said on Wednesday he had consulted with the leaders of other G7
countries, who agreed Israel "has the right to respond, but they should respond
proportionally".

Fears over further violence between Israel and Iran, the world’s seventh largest
oil producer, have put markets on edge.

Of particular concern is whether any escalation could block the Straits of
Hormuz, through which a third of oil tanker traffic and a fifth of LNG frozen gas
has to pass."


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55885


Date: October 10, 2024 at 20:13:53
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: BBC: Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran...




As to Bidens speech problems, *rump normalized the
bizarre, incoherent and worse a long time ago. Biden
would have to do much something more than search for a
word to shock me.

"Bennett argued striking Iran's nuclear facilities
could "help change the face of
the Middle East" and “fatally cripple this terrorist
regime”.

This is tantamount to nuclear war. Did anyone tell
Bennett that friends of Iran have thousands of nuclear
bombs, with boats and planes to put them in range of
Israel?

OMG. The whole lot is criminally insane. There are
bad people on both sides.







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55893


Date: October 11, 2024 at 10:51:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem


needing to mischaracterize & minimize President Biden's cognitive impairment
is typical of your mo lately, mitra. pretend, dismiss, deflect blame. Trump.
Russia. Hamas. It's fascinating.


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55908


Date: October 11, 2024 at 23:47:33
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem




Just hitting the balls you're pitching.

Biden may search for a word or not finish a sentence,
so what?

He keeps our international alliances safe.
He respects veterans,
works for the people,
repairing infrastructure,
so many good things he's done,
not the least is just be reasonable.
And Jill has been a respectful first lady






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55897


Date: October 11, 2024 at 12:21:40
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem


mitra..it looks like you've made Akira's enemy list!
It's big, and you're in great company.


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55909


Date: October 12, 2024 at 08:36:15
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem




Thank you for this honor.

I wish to thank Mr. Bopp for providing this beautiful
venue, you, of course, Red, AO and Shadow for their
never ending inspiration and the others who are around
us and have gone before us, we stand on the shoulders
of giants.


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55894


Date: October 11, 2024 at 10:54:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it wasn't a 'speech problem', it's a brain problem


As if your own M.O. is less fascinating...

...lololol...


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