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55854


Date: October 09, 2024 at 18:56:34
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it is just not believable


than anyone thinks other than that everyone here wishes what is happening in the mideast would stop...there is no one here celebrating what is going on over there...so that is a good starting point...we are all on the same page about that...

then there is the question of what to do? unfortunately, none of us can "do"...that is obvious...there are a lot of differing opinions as to what one wishes to be done...but wishes are like fishes in the sea...they cannot stem the tide...like i said earlier, if it could be different, it would be different...

so what would it take to make it different? certainly not tearing one's hair out or pointing fingers and accusing others of whatever...what can one do...perhaps it might make a difference to write letters, to protest, to bring things to the attention of the public...the most important thing one can do, imo, is try to work on their own self...try to be a better person and let the ripples of your own betterment affect those around you...the second thing one can do, at least in this country, is vote...try to put people in positions of power who have integrity and a true desire to help people...people who think about others before themselves...

there are many reasons why what is happening is happening...and the impeti for what is happening occurred long ago...change on this scale does not happen quickly...there are no "do this and everything will change for the better" solutions...these are things that must be remembered as we all feel the pain and suffering of what is occurring...events like this can be useful...


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55861


Date: October 10, 2024 at 03:09:40
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


“unfortunately, none of us can "do"...that is obvious.”

Just a couple of months ago you specifically said than anyone who posts
(complains) about issues without offering solutions is a ‘loser’. Then your
mini-me here picked up your words and repeated them, also accusing us of
being losers. Maybe you should watch your own words. You may be
influencing people in ways you don’t intend. When you shit on people here you
give permission to others to do the same.

“perhaps it might make a difference to write letters, to protest, to bring things to
the attention of the public..”

My primary purpose posting here is to bring things to the attention of the
public. I deliberately attempt to avoid obvious, corporate driven news sources.
I post stories specifically NOT in the mainstream media.

“the most important thing one can do, imo, is try to work on their own self...try
to be a better person”.

No shit. Sharing information here and working on oneself are not mutually
exclusive activities. Isn't that a reason you have this site?


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55886


Date: October 10, 2024 at 21:35:14
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


"My primary purpose posting here is to bring things to the attention of the
public."

You are delusional if you think posting here "bring things to the attention of
the public."

Methinks you post here to indulge yourself in your own self importance.. to
whine instead of actually doing anything productive. In fact I find your posts
a complete waste of time. But hey it's your time you are wasting.. and thank
you for wasting it here so we an watch you waste it.

Really akira, if you wanted to change anything you would not be here..


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55871


Date: October 10, 2024 at 10:32:41
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


I'm going to wait and see if ryan's got anything to say
to this before I post my thoughts, obviously as it's
addressed to him within an ongoing conversation...and of
course I welcome his to this, as well, if I'm
presuming/expressing anything that doesn't ring true...

"My primary purpose posting here is to bring things to
the attention of the public."

LOL! No, it's not. Going straight by your actions, your
purpose posting here is to not only share things you see
as not being brought forward by corporate-owned media,
but to badger, disrespect and insult the character of and
otherwise troll *anyone who doesn't clearly post in
support of what you're sharing*...so, sorry, no cigar on
the self-righteous victim shite...

And ryan/Mr. Bopp has not once portrayed himself as
anything but exactly who he is. You and several others
before you somehow disappear that fact relentlessly and
with great commitment...decide to take issue with who he
is and attack how he moderates/comments within his
forum... And when he doesn't respond to your attacks by
*conforming to what YOU want* (including moments of just
*being his human self* and reacting to posts *from his
own sensibilities,* which...again, in case you missed it,
*he's clearly claimed the right to do, here*)...you get
self-righteously ugly...*as if he promised one thing, and
delivered another*... How do you do that?

Everyone whines about "the Golden Old Days at EB," when,
they say, none of this happened...? You're hilarious! The
only Before and After, there, is that Before, the dark
perversion of the GOP's desire to take over the country
and establish fascist rule was a little more more tucked
in, and now that it's their proud mission, those of us
*who value our country* are shouting as loud as we have
to, to match and stand down their inhumane zeal.......
The fact that people here haven't demonstrated for you
that same shouting *for Gaza,* as you wish they would,
has nothing to do with people refusing to be
humanitarian, or aware, and everything to do with that
being a far more complex picture than you, or those
imagining you HAVE the full picture, can know... Some of
us realize that and are choosing our battles best we
can...

“'the most important thing one can do, imo, is try to
work on their own self...try to be a better person'.

No shit. Sharing information here and working on oneself
are not mutually exclusive activities. Isn't that a
reason you have this site?"

No, they're not "mutually exclusive"... Neither does
working on oneself necessarily lead to taking a stance
that resonates with yours...nor does it involve being
verbally abused by those who can't seem to grok that
others see different/bigger pictures than you do...nor
does it mean that the reality and image of dying
humans...women and children...*ever disappears* from
consciousness any more than it does for you...

Yes, akira, U.S. involvement in Israel/Gaza, in anything
we'd see as *obvious human atrocity,* guts the
sensibilities of anyone with functional hearts... We also
know that everything going on, locally and globally, is
entirely off any previous charts *in all contexts*...and
bringing *Humane Reality* fully back into either of those
arenas is going to take a lot more than anything anyone's
passionate venting here could possibly accomplish...or
you, personallly railing against people here who've
offered you insufficient response to your posts, could
possibly generate...

...and, no: That does *not* translate to apathy, nor to
hearts & minds that've turned away from seeking bottom-
line Truth, nor to just about anything you need to insist
is so, so you can feel justified in your condescending
stance of being The Only One Who Cares...apart from the
GOPers here, of course, who eagerly fawn over anything
that offers distraction from focus upon the fact that
they're supporters of Fascists now...


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55870


Date: October 10, 2024 at 10:25:46
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


agreed. seems to be another plea to stop speaking up against genocide
that our tax dollars are paying for. what is happening is against both
international and us law. it is just unbelievable to me the pushback we get
for speaking up about israel slaughtering thousands of civilians, mostly
women and children


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55872


Date: October 10, 2024 at 10:58:34
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


But feel free to talk about Russia's invasion of Ukraine... that was a hot topic for
a while. Guess everyone just got bored? I was called everything from a
commie, an unpatriotic American, a bigot, a putin lover, what else? because I
didn't jump on that particular wagon along with the rest of them. What
ridiculous hypocrites. They all forgot already. lol


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55876


Date: October 10, 2024 at 11:24:55
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


I still back support of Ukraine..strongly.

My focus is on this election and defeating Trump,
because both the Palestinians and Ukrainians (and
possibly most of Europe) will be in full danger if the
Demented Orange turd wins.


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55869


Date: October 10, 2024 at 10:06:21
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


noted...thanks...


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55865


Date: October 10, 2024 at 07:10:27
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: your well intentioned sermon rings hollow


i do think ryan is getting better. he has changed bit
by bit. i have also. gaza is affecting all of us


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55868


Date: October 10, 2024 at 09:34:31
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...


...in the seventies they got the message.

...in the twenties we blamed everything on Trump.

At this rate, there will be no thirties.


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55879


Date: October 10, 2024 at 14:54:01
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...




The seventies was a time of change and bits of hope.

Reagan took that and put it into the trash with the
White House solar panels.

I only blame *rump and treason on *rump.

That doesn't make Democrats perfect, just in
comparison, patriots.


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55873


Date: October 10, 2024 at 11:00:51
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...


during Clinton & Obama years democrats learned how to love war, look
forwards not backwards, cling to eternal hope, deregulate big industry to their
hearts content and love the bomb


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55877


Date: October 10, 2024 at 11:25:51
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...


Seriously..I don't think anyone here "loves war".

Again, a hyperbolistic bait comment unworthy of you.


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Date: October 10, 2024 at 17:53:43
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...


i think israel loves war, as long as we provide the
bombs and money!!!


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55874


Date: October 10, 2024 at 11:11:01
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...in the sixties we marched in the streets...


...lol...


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55856


Date: October 09, 2024 at 19:36:26
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it is just not believable

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2Bk6myd9E&t=90s


"let the ripples of your own betterment affect those around you..."



For those around me, here's your ripples. Enjoy.



But remember, ripples never come back.





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