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Date: October 03, 2024 at 23:24:51
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented Ukraine invas

URL: Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented Ukraine invasion


Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented Ukraine
invasion

BY FILIP TIMOTIJA - 10/03/24 8:57 PM ET


Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson suggested that Donald
Trump’s presidency would have prevented Russia from invading Ukraine in
2022.

Johnson said that Ukraine’s resistance is “absolutely existential for
freedom and democracy” and the Eastern European country’s fall would
be an “absolute catastrophe.” He then stated that Trump “understands
that.”

“I don’t think that he will want to go down in history as the guy who
launched his second presidential term not by making America great but by
making the Soviet Union great again,” Johnson said in an interview with
The Telegraph published on Thursday.

The ex-president, who has voiced skepticism of U.S. aid to Ukraine, has
repeatedly mentioned on the campaign trail that Russia would not have
invaded Ukraine if he was the commander-in-chief. Since Russia first
attacked Ukraine in February 2022, the U.S. has provided around $60
billion in military assistance to the war-torn country.

The former president met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky
last week in New York. Before the sit-down, Trump told reporters he could
broker a deal to end the war “very quickly.”

“We’re going to work very much with both parties to try and get this
settled,” Trump said.

“We have a very good relationship, and I also have a very good
relationship — as you know — with President Putin. And I think if we win, I
think we’re going to get it resolved very quickly,” the GOP nominee added
before Zelensky chimed in and said “I hope we have more good relations,”

“I think that we can work out something that’s good for both sides,”
Trump said. “It’s time. By the way, the president [Zelensky] knows that
too. He wants to get something done. He doesn’t want to do this.”

Johnson praised Trump’s unpredictability during the wide-ranging
interview and said he spoke with the GOP nominee “quite recently.”

“One of the virtues of Trump is his sheer unpredictability,” Johnson said.
“That’s one of the reasons why I look at how he actually behaved on
foreign affairs and I contrast it with what people say about him.”

“He expelled 60 Russian spies [after the Salisbury poisonings],” he
continued. “He was much tougher on Syria than the Democrat
administrations. He was tougher on the IRGC [Iranian Revolutionary Guard
Corps] and then he gave the Ukrainians the Javelin missile.”


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Date: October 04, 2024 at 10:51:35
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Trump says he would have let Russia have the Donbas (for China)

URL: https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2024-04-07/trump-plan-cease-fire-russia-ukraine-13507348.html



(China is under pressure and needs the Donbas
minerals.) Russia exports oil, they don't need it, but
Putin promised his brother Xi and hasn't come through.
Trump is in Putin's pocket, and has his marching
orders.

…......…....…..........…

Trump’s proposal consists of pushing Ukraine to cede
Crimea and the Donbas border region to Russia,
according to people who discussed it with Trump or his
advisers and spoke on the condition of anonymity
because those conversations were confidential. That
approach, which has not been previously reported, would
dramatically reverse President Biden’s policy, which
has emphasized curtailing Russian aggression and
providing military aid to Ukraine.

As he seeks a return to power, the presumptive
Republican nominee has frequently boasted that he could
negotiate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine
within 24 hours if elected, even before taking office.
But he has repeatedly declined to specify publicly how
he would quickly settle a war that has raged for more
than two years and killed tens of thousands of soldiers
and civilians.

Trump-aligned foreign-policy thinkers have emphasized
addressing threats to U.S. interests from China and
seeking ways to reverse Russia’s increasing dependence
on China for military, industrial and economic
assistance. They have also embraced limiting NATO
expansion.

Privately, Trump has said that he thinks both Russia
and Ukraine “want to save face, they want a way out,”
and that people in parts of Ukraine would be OK with
being part of Russia, according to a person who has
discussed the matter directly with Trump.

Accepting Russian control over parts of Ukraine would
expand the reach of Putin’s dictatorship after what has
been the biggest land war in Europe since World War II.
Some of Trump’s supporters have been trying to persuade
him against such an outcome.

“I’ve been spending 100 percent of my time talking to
Trump about Ukraine,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-
S.C.), a onetime Trump critic turned ally. “He has to
pay a price. He can’t win at the end of this,” Graham
added, speaking of Putin.

Russia has previously declared it was annexing
Ukrainian land beyond the Donbas region and Crimea and
Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has said he
would not accept surrendering any territory. Exchanging
territory for a cease-fire would put Ukraine in a worse
position without assurances that Russia would not rearm
and resume hostilities, as it has in the past, said
Emma Ashford, a senior fellow at the Stimson Center, a
nonpartisan think tank. “That is a terrible deal,” she
said of Trump’s proposal.


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55781


Date: October 04, 2024 at 00:02:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented Ukraine...


whadda get when you have a loaf of white bread and two fat self-absorbed wankers? a big shit sandwich! and you're eating it up boy!


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Date: October 04, 2024 at 08:05:39
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented...


weak lol


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Date: October 04, 2024 at 11:09:01
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Boris Johnson says Trump presidency would have prevented...

URL: https://www.thenational.scot/news/23618940.fresh-questions-raised-boris-johnsons-connection-lebedevs/




Weak? Not hardly. Trump's position in Putin's pocket
is well known. Not so Boris, perhaps this will help?

..........,.,.....

The National

Fresh questions raised about Boris Johnson's connection
with Lebedevs
28th June 2023
Boris Johnson

By Ross Hunter
@_Ross_Hunter
Multimedia Journalist




3 Comments
Boris Johnson and Evgeny Lebedev (Image: Victoria
Jones/PA)

Boris Johnson and Evgeny Lebedev (Image: Victoria
Jones/PA)
ITALY’S secret intelligence service were monitoring the
Lebedev family’s luxury villa at the time Boris Johnson
visited while serving as foreign secretary in 2018, a
documentary has revealed.

According to the Channel 4 documentary Boris, the Lord
and the Russian Spy, Italy’s security services
concluded in a secret document that Alexander Lebedev –
a businessman and former Russian spy – continued to
receive the “favour and friendship” of Russian
president Vladimir Putin.

They also questioned whether he continued to have
connections with Russian intelligence services despite
leaving the KGB decades earlier.

Johnson attended a party hosted by Lebedev’s son, media
magnate Evgeny Lebedev, at the luxury Palazzo Terranova
villa in Umbria following a Nato summit in Brussels in
April 2018.

During a session with the Commons liaison committee
last year, Johnson admitted for the first time that he
had met Alexander Lebedev at the party with no
officials present.

Johnson claimed that “no government business was
discussed”.

In 2020, Evgeny Lebedev was given a life peerage in the
House of Lords by Boris Johnson. However, the
documentary also revealed that UK Government officials
contacted Buckingham Palace to request that the late
Queen block the appointment.

The palace reportedly refused to become involved for
fear of involving the Queen in political controversy.

Italian MP Lia Quartapelle told the filmmakers said it
would be prudent of politicians to “be careful” about
the kind of relationship they keep with Alexander
Lebedev.

“The conclusion of the report is that it cannot be
ruled out that he still works for the KGB or he still
is involved in KGB activities,” she said.


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Date: October 04, 2024 at 11:48:02
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And, OT.... told you so, months ago...(NT)


(NT)


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Date: October 04, 2024 at 11:53:04
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And, OT.... told you so, months ago...(NT)


But of course he won't acknowledge that you did...

Fascinated to see how he'll try to spin this one...lol...


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Date: October 05, 2024 at 09:49:44
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And, OT.... told you so, months ago...(NT)





So I waited and...

you were right again!


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Date: October 05, 2024 at 10:39:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And, OT.... told you so, months ago...(NT)


And unconditional relentless Hope is a
beautiful thing... ;)


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