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Date: September 28, 2024 at 12:00:35
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
URL: Kremlin worries repeated nuke threats have lost their potency |
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Despite an incursion into Russian territory, Putin has "not taken any step to
even prepare nuclear weapons for use"
Russia has kept the world from intervening more directly in its war with
Ukraine with a simple, hair-raising reminder: It has nuclear weapons. And it
is willing to use them if its interests are sufficiently threatened by the West.
It isn't clear the West feels those threats as keenly as it once did. And in the
Kremlin, there is recognition that its use of nuclear saber-rattling is "starting
to lose its potency," said The Washington Post. Why? Because the United
States and other Ukraine allies have repeatedly pushed against Russia's
"red lines" — by providing jet fighters to Kyiv, for example — apparently
without heightening the risk of a nuclear war. "There is already immunity to
such statements," said an anonymous Russian official, "and they don't
frighten anyone."
But Vladimir Putin is still making those threats. He warned NATO allies this
month that they would be "at war with Russia" if they provide Ukraine with
long-range missiles. The threat "sounds different this time," Fred Weir said
at The Christian Science Monitor. Putin has come under pressure from
Moscow hawks to "restore deterrence" and make Western leaders more
cautious about their support for Ukraine. "There is a growing feeling that the
West needs some kind of a wake-up call," said Russian newspaper
columnist Sergei Strokan.
It's time for the West to "change the way we think about nuclear
deterrence," Andriy Zagorodnyuk said at The Guardian. The United States
and Europe have proceeded cautiously, worried about "potential nuclear
escalation" and triggering a world war. That means the strategy against
Russia has prioritized "avoiding escalation, even if this slows down Ukraine's
defense efforts." After two years of war, though, a number of experts
believe the chances of nuclear war "are practically zero," Zagorodnyuk said.
Why? Because the world has been able to "silence Putin's nuclear saber-
rattling."
"There should have been a nuclear war by now," Phillips P. O'Brien said at
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Despite an incursion into Russian territory,
Putin's forces have "not taken any step to even prepare nuclear weapons for
use." That's something to celebrate. But it's not time to abandon caution:
"The longer a war goes on, the more politically intense and brutal it gets."
That makes nuclear escalation "more likely," O'Brien said. One certainty: The
world is in uncharted territory. "Many of the assumptions underlying the use
of nuclear weapons lie in tatters."
It's time for the West to "change the way we think about nuclear
deterrence," Andriy Zagorodnyuk said at The Guardian. The United States
and Europe have proceeded cautiously, worried about "potential nuclear
escalation" and triggering a world war. That means the strategy against
Russia has prioritized "avoiding escalation, even if this slows down Ukraine's
defense efforts." After two years of war, though, a number of experts
believe the chances of nuclear war "are practically zero," Zagorodnyuk said.
Why? Because the world has been able to "silence Putin's nuclear saber-
rattling."
"There should have been a nuclear war by now," Phillips P. O'Brien said at
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Despite an incursion into Russian territory,
Putin's forces have "not taken any step to even prepare nuclear weapons for
use." That's something to celebrate. But it's not time to abandon caution:
"The longer a war goes on, the more politically intense and brutal it gets."
That makes nuclear escalation "more likely," O'Brien said. One certainty: The
world is in uncharted territory. "Many of the assumptions underlying the use
of nuclear weapons lie in tatters."
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 14:27:35
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
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this does make a lot of sense
"The longer a war goes on, the more politically intense and brutal it gets."
That makes nuclear escalation "more likely," O'Brien said. One certainty:
The world is in uncharted territory. "Many of the assumptions underlying
the use of nuclear weapons lie in tatters."
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 15:29:49
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
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Sounds to me like you're rooting for..
Putin has been telling us he's going to play the nuke card forever.. if we
don't kiss his arse he'll rain fire and brimstone down on.. so at some point
we're the chumps if we keep going on about how he's going to blow us all to
kingdom come. I mean, come on, right?
And besides, if he does that he's toast, vaporware. So, I don't see him doing
anything like it.. at least until we're really actually like that minute storming
the gates of his dacha.. and by then..
In fact he is the guy that has to buy arms from despots. He's the guy with a
long run of failed nuclear tests.. he's a fucking two bit.. and yeah we all
should be quaking in our boots..
As it is.. Cheap Thrills brah.. he's dragging us down with the same ol' Ball 'n
Chain. And damn, Janis sure knew how to belt it out!
But still, what do you suggest we do? Hand him Ukraine on a silver platter?
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 15:36:31
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
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"Hand him Ukraine on a silver platter?"
seems like that is the desire there...ally? fuck em...
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 15:57:28
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
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that’s as dishonest as your disturbed buddy constantly claiming
anyone who speaks against israel’s genocide is a hamas supporter
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Date: September 28, 2024 at 19:11:29
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Has Russia's nuclear saber-rattling lost its edge? |
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check out OT's pivot LOL.
You're so predictable.
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