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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Israel'a mass cyber attack in Lebanon a grave violation of int'l law
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Yousef Munayyer@YousefMunayyer The apparent Israeli mass cyber attack in Lebanon that detonated cellular devices/pagers is a grave violation of international law and opens a dangerous pandoras box. Almost every human is a walking ticking bomb and it won't be long before this tech will be used by many actors Sturgeon's Law@Sturgeons_Law This is another good point. Besides violating international law, it sets a very dangerous precedent for future attacks like this around the world by all kinds of different actors. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Israel'a mass cyber attack in Lebanon a grave violation of int'l...
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yes, israel is breaking international laws created to protect civilians showing they aren’t civilized |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Israel is a US sanctioned terrorist state (NT)
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Pagers are in widespread use by healthcare workers in many countries..
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jeremy scahill reposted Séamus Malekafzali@Seamus_Malek · 2h Al-Rassoul al-Azzam Hospital in south Beirut has announced that one of its employees, pictured below, has died from his wounds after his pager exploded in yesterday's attack. Pagers are in widespread use by healthcare workers in many countries, including Lebanon. |
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55553
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: yes, Hamas is breaking international laws..
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Yes, Hamas is breaking international laws created to protect civilians showing they aren’t civilized. Right on OT, see, we agree on something. War is war, you attack me don't expect me to play by any rules other than the rule to win. Sorry no sympathy for Iranian surrogates acting like animals. Maybe Putin will listen to you? Xi? But here? Dude you lost the fight when Hamas attacked Israel. From there on in it's sorta 'well, yeah, they're mean ass fuckers, what'd you expect?' Seriously, OT, what'd you expect? |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: yes, Hamas is breaking international laws..
URL: https://x.com/tparsi
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Trita Parsi, 2010 Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order Recipient. Executive VP @quincyinst. Author of Losing an Enemy & Treacherous Alliance. "Rest assured, if any other country had launched an attack on the US or Israel that killed 11 (inc children), with 4000 injured - 400 critically - we would call it both a terrorist attack AND a declaration of war. Now, we do neither. Yet again, we are seeing the abysmal failure of the Biden administration's bear hug strategy with Israel. The idea that the best way to influence Israel is to support it to the tilt, never criticize it publicly, and defend and protect it at the UN. This approach, Biden told us, would provide the US with the leverage to reign in Israel and prevent it from starting a regional war. The strategy is absurd - and perhaps more importantly, dangerous to US national interest. It certainly has not restrained Israel - we saw that again today with the attack in Lebanon despite messages from the White House to Israel that it should not start war with Lebanon. In fact, it has done the opposite: The more Biden has armed Israel, defended Israel, made excuses for Israel when it has killed Americans, vetoed resolutions at the UN, and accused American critics of Israel's genocide of being "anti- semitic," the more dismissive of US wishes Israel has become. And like clockwork, after Israel has attacked Lebanon (or any other country in the region), Biden will launch an extensive campaign to stop the attacked entities from retaliating - while doing nothing to truly prevent Israel from escalating in the first place. And much of the mainstream media will praise Biden for "seeking to prevent a regional war" without asking the obvious question: Perhaps it is Biden's misguided strategy that has kept us on the brink of a regional war for months now?" |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
| if so then you are a sociopath |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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"you are a sociopath" hey, I think you're a whore.. so.. we're even. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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i’m not calling you names, i’m asking why you don’t seem to support international laws that were put in place to protect civilians? people who are sociopaths have no empathy and in general disregard others rights, feelings and even their lives which is a damned good description for your behavior. i’ve been assuming you enjoy the bullying you do but possibly i’m wrong and you simply lack empathy to the point you really can’t grasp how caustic your behavior is. karen’s feeling so threatened she has been avoiding this forum is a good example so what are your thoughts on international laws to protect civilian casualties? do you not think it was good for the international community to create such laws? |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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I have all kinds empathy OT, and all the associated feelings to boot. But I am not lending it to causes that it will do no go, other than to assess them and work towards actual solutions. If you want to talk your ideas, not some fairy dust stop the war and burn Biden in effigy nonsense that is all akira can come up with but real solutions.. hey let's get down and dirty.. As it is I have yet to see you being predisposed to that sort of thing. It's more whining about what is without any actual solutions to what should be. And as much as I can empathetically 'feel' ya bro, there's not much else to say. On 10/07 Hamas shattered reality. I felt it, you felt it, it was a tele seismic event. A shot heard around the world. In our guts. OMFuckingG. Now, before that Bibi was already known to be a very bad guy, his people were in the streets tearing him down for months.. And the USA, Biden, was pushing him towards a two state solution hard.. really hard. And Hamas attacked and attacked in such a large way, so big that it shock the planet. So.. sorry Charlie, StarKist no like your tuna.. It is what it is. The biggest baddest asshole there is mowing down Gaza and it's way hard to say he's right and it's kinda hard to tell him to stop when Hamas still has him by the balls and is shaking them on and on and on. It's on Hamas. Hamas has to give up the hostages and lay down and take their medicine. Otherwise.. I don't forget the shock of 10/07.. and you'd be smart not to forget it yourself. As it is you are a broken record taking every opportunity to say the same thing.. over and over and oh poor me. Really OT when you whine about the people of Gaza I don't hear that, I haven't heard that for a long time. I hear you whining about yourself. That's EXACTLY what it sounds like to me. So, once again.. go tell it to Hamas. Methinks they really need to hear what you have to say. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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you start out by saying you have empathy but then you go on another long rant where you show a complete lack of empathy for the civilians, woman and children being killed. none, zero, totally devoid of empathy over civilian casualties so do you think the international representatives who made these laws to protect civilian casualties were fools? step back from this situation, do you understand why the international community seeks to prevent unnecessary civilian casualties in times of war? |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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Why are you asking me? I can't do shit about anything. I understand Hamas has to go. I understand Hamas has the gall to use civilians as shields. And I understand that does not discount the fact that Hamas has to go. And yeah.. that's some funny ideas you have OT about war. But ok. Do you think the thugs on the streets of America who gun down people are playing by some sort of rules? Malls shot up, schools? Rules? Do they sell rule books with guns? Sorry. I strongly suggest if you're going to continue to whine take it elsewhere.. Hey, do us all a favor.. take it to Hamas. I am sure they're waiting to hear from you. But me? At this point answering you is just a bit of entertainment.. look at OT go.. go OT go go go.. you know how it is.. As I said.. tell it to Hamas. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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i’m asking you because you have shown a complete lack of empathy for civilians being killed and i’m asking to see if you understand and agree with the international community creating laws to protect civilians. none of us can do shit about it, or about most of the things we discuss here, but i am very curious about your lack of empathy and want to know if you can grasp why such laws exist people who shoot up the streets, malls and schools are ignoring laws and they will be punished accordingly. likewise nations that ignore international laws should be punished. in many ways israel is setting up their own punishment as they are finding themselves increasingly isolated in the global community due to their barbarism by the way, while you have fallen back on your blame everything on hamas mantra this thread is about a cyber attack in lebanon against hesbolah which killed a child and injured thousands due to it’s indiscriminate delivery which is why it violates international law |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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“it violates international law” Law and war are opposites.. one has nothing to do with the other. People can make up anything they want to make themselves feel better but the only.. the absolute only rule of war is win. And, anyone that plays by rules just makes themselves vulnerable to those that don’t. So yeah, if you like we’ll put ‘he played by the rules’ on your headstone. And besides, with Hamas breaking all the rules I still can’t find an excuse for Israel to care for them either. You’re like Trump, just like the way he goads people on and then whines oh poor me when they do his bidding. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Either you demand Hamas play by the rules or your demands on Israel fall short.. and we all know Hamas ain’t gonna play by your rules so why are you filling these pages with your same old nonsense? Like I said to me you’re just whining about you. You can’t have gone on so long harping on the same thing without it being about you.. verses the excuses you make up about it being about others.. It must be frustrating.. I hope it serves you.. but I can’t see how. Sorry. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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“Law and war are opposites.. one has nothing to do with the other. ” wrong, the geneva convention lays out the international legal standards for humanitarian treatment in war. after the horrors of wwii they laid out the rights and protections of non-combatants. people who actually witnessed these crimes undated these international laws in 1949. israel signed the geneva convention in 1951 i’ve never actually encountered a sociopath, our conversations may be more interesting than i thought. knowing you have no empathy changes changes things a hell of a lot |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you don’t support international laws to protect civilians???
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Hey, OT, are you a musician? Do you play an instrument? If so, which one? For how long? |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Hamas attack on Israel on 10/07 is a grave violation of int'l law..
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Israel’s at war with Iran. Iran uses surrogates.. but they are Iranian nonetheless.. and you think Israel engaging in that war for the purpose of self preservation is a grave violation of int'l law? Give us a break.. as far as I am concerned there are no rules in war except win. It’s war. If you don’t like it don’t throw bombs at Israel. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hamas attack on Israel on 10/07 is a grave violation of int'l...
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i would agree that israel is breaking international law similar to the way a terrorist organization such as hamas breaks international laws. would be nice if we could disarm them all but israel’s disregard for civilian casualties is something that will stick with them for a long time do you not respect international laws created to protect civilian lives? ironically the laws were created in light of events such as the holocaust which took an enormous toll on civilians |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hamas attack on Israel on 10/07 is a grave violation of int'l...
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Remember Hamas, OT? You know the guys with the hostages? You do remember the hostages, right OT? If you want to bitch some more don't talk to me.. go to Gaza and talk to Hamas. Otherwise you're just an old man crying in his soup.. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hamas attack on Israel on 10/07 is a grave violation of int'l...
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you really don’t have any empathy for those people do you? wow |
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From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hamas attack on Israel on 10/07 is a grave violation of int'l...
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hew appears filled with hate for hamas. i am praying for hamas and israel. satan is in control of both of them. |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: De facto terrorism-many whose pagers blew up were not military targets
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Sturgeon's Law@Sturgeons_Law De facto terrorism, since many of the people whose pagers were blown up are not military targets, but civilian members of the political wing of Hezbollah, & the chaos it caused (for ex, if the victims were driving or in a crowded area) could mean more random civilian deaths It's not just indistinguishable from terrorism. There is no better way to describe it. BREAKING: Eight people have been killed and 2,750 wounded — 200 of them critically — by exploding pagers across Lebanon, the country's health minister says. https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-hezbollah-israel-exploding-pagers- 8893a09816410959b6fe94aec124461b? taid=66e9a3718b01790001c6d99f&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medi um=AP&utm_source=Twitter |
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