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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:07:29
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Biden lays out Israeli ceasefire proposal |
URL: At this point, Hamas no longer is capable of carrying out another October 7 |
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Full Headline: Biden says it’s ‘time for this war to end’ as he lays out Israeli
ceasefire proposal
President Joe Biden asserted Friday that Hamas has been degraded to a
point where it can no longer carry out the type of attack that launched the
current 8-month conflict in Gaza, laying out a three-phase proposal Israel
has submitted to wind down the grinding crisis as he declared, “It’s time for
this war to end.
It was perhaps the furthest Biden has gone in telling Israel its stated goals
for its operation in Gaza have been met, and that the time has arrived to
stop the fighting as part of a hostage deal.
“At this point, Hamas no longer is capable of carrying out another October 7,
just one of Israel’s main objectives in this war, and quite frankly a righteous
one,” Biden said at the White House.
He had just laid out a three-phase Israeli proposal that would pair a release
of hostages with a “full and complete ceasefire,” a plan he said presented
the best hope to bring peace to Gaza.
“This is truly a decisive moment,” he said.
Biden said the Israeli proposal was transmitted this week. The first phase
would last six weeks and include the “withdrawal of Israeli forces from all
populated areas of Gaza” and “release of a number of hostages including
women, the elderly, the wounded in exchange for the release of hundreds of
Palestinian prisoners.”
He said Phase 2 would allow for the “exchange for the release of all
remaining living hostages, including male soldiers.”
“And as long as Hamas lives up to its commitments, the temporary ceasefire
would become, in the words of the Israeli proposals, ‘the cessation of
hostilities permanently,’” Biden said.
In Phase 3, the president said, a “major reconstruction plan for Gaza would
commence and any final remains of hostages who’ve been killed will be
returned to their families.”
Indirect talks between Israel and Hamas on securing the hostages’ release
were paused three weeks ago without a deal after the sides could not come
to an agreement on some of the terms.
On Thursday, Hamas said it had informed mediators that it is “prepared to
reach a comprehensive agreement” that includes a full hostage and prisoner
exchange deal if Israel stops its war in Gaza.
A statement from the group said while it had shown “flexibility and positivity
in dealing with the efforts of the mediators throughout all previous rounds
of indirect negotiations.” Israel, Hamas said, had used the months of
ongoing talks as a cover to continue its war in Gaza.
“Hamas and the Palestinian factions will not accept being part of this policy
of continuous negotiations in the face of aggression, killing, siege,
starvation, and genocide of our people,” the Hamas statement said.
Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly insisted that the
war must continue until Hamas is completely destroyed.
In his speech from the White House, Biden acknowledged internal divisions
inside Israel that could prevent a hostage deal from being agreed it.
“I know there are those in Israel who will not agree with this plan. And will
call for the war to continue indefinitely. Some, some are even in the
government coalition,” he said, an unsubtle reference to hardliners in
Netanyahu’s government who have resisted efforts to mediate an end to the
conflict.
“They made it clear they want to occupy Gaza. They want to keep fighting
for years and the hostages are not a priority to them,” Biden said.
Though he did not name anyone in his speech, Biden has previously singled
out National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir as among those in
Netanyahu’s governing coalition who are making any progress difficult.
In his speech, Biden made a direct appeal to ordinary Israelis to voice their
support for a hostage agreement that would result in a ceasefire.
“I need your help. Everyone who wants peace now must raise their voices
and let the leaders know they should take this deal. Work to make it real,
make it lasting, and forge a better future out of the tragic terror attack and
war,” he said. “It’s time to begin this new stage. The hostages to come
home for Israel to be secure in a suffering to stop.”
Biden spoke directly to Americans as well who have criticized the violence in
Gaza, admitting that too many civilians had been killed and calling the
situation “one of the hardest, most complicated problems in the world.”
“We all saw the terrible images from a deadly fire in Rafah earlier this week
following an Israeli strike … targeting Hamas,” Biden said, in his first
comments since a strike left dozens of civilians dead. “Even as we worked
to surge assistance to Gaza … the humanitarian crisis still remains.”
The president, who returned to the White House from his beach home in
Delaware earlier in the morning, had avoided commenting on the situation in
Israel for several days.
Earlier on Friday, Israel said its forces have entered central Rafah, the city in
southern Gaza that Biden has warned should not be the target of a major
ground offensive.
The White House called images from the disaster “heartbreaking” but said
the incident had not crossed Biden’s red line for withholding some US
weapons shipments to Israel.
The president told CNN’s Erin Burnett in an interview this month that he
would limit some US arms to Israel if the country’s military “go into Rafah.”
But he has remained vague about how he will quantify such a decision,
leading to frustrations and a degree of confusion over his stance. Many
Democrats, along with foreign leaders who the US counts as allies, say
Israel’s actions clearly cross a red line – if not Biden’s, then their own and
those of international law.
White House officials have sought this week to explain Biden’s stance,
suggesting his barometer for changing policy would be a “major ground
invasion” of the city.
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:32:59
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
URL: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/politics/biden-middle-east-remarks/index.html |
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"Less than an hour after Biden detailed the Israeli proposal, Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted Israel would not end the war until
Hamas is defeated.
The Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement that “the war will not end until
all of its goals are achieved.”
“The Israeli government is united in the desire to return our hostages as soon
as possible and is working to achieve this goal,” the statement said.
“Therefore, the Prime Minister authorized the negotiating team to present an
outline for achieving this goal while insisting that the war will not end until all
of its goals are achieved, including the return of all our hostages and the
elimination of Hamas’ military and governmental capabilities.
The Prime Minister’s Office insisted that the “exact outline” of Israel’s
proposal allows Israel to “maintain these principles.”
Shortly after the statement was released it was announced that the top four
Congressional leaders have formally invited Netanyahu to address a joint
meeting of Congress though no date was specified for it to take place.
‘Nearly identical to Hamas’ own proposals’
Israel’s four-and-a-half-page hostage-return and ceasefire proposal was
submitted to Hamas on Thursday evening, a US senior administration official
said, and matches closely a deal the group itself recently proposed.
“It’s nearly identical to Hamas’ own proposals of only a few weeks ago. So if
that’s what Hamas wants, they can take the deal,” the official said."
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Date: June 01, 2024 at 03:59:26
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: maybe because is wasn't Israel's proposal... |
URL: https://x.com/JeffreyStClair3 |
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"The same proposal that Hamas signed on back on May 6; in essence; the
American proposal that Bill Burns okayed on May 2 . Now Biden is trying to
make it look like it was an Israeli proposal & a fig-leave 2 Netanyahu.
Thousands of Palestinians have been killed & wounded since then"
from link
ao: "Nobody will actually read the article I linked, so I'll leave out the part
about Biden pretending it's Israel's proposal. It's such a little lie, won't
matter."
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Date: June 01, 2024 at 16:48:10
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Ben Gvir, “Agreeing to deal is not total victory – but total defeat,” |
URL: https://www.yahoo.com/news/netanyahu-coalition-allies-threaten-quit-223832390.html |
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Israel's proposal, my ass..lol
excerpt
The Telegraph
Netanyahu’s coalition allies threaten to quit government if he accepts Biden’s
truce
Sat, June 1, 2024
Two of Benjamin Netanyahu’s hard-Right coalition allies on Saturday night
threatened to quit the government if he goes ahead with the truce deal
outlined by Joe Biden.
The US president announced on Friday that Israel had offered a new
roadmap towards a full ceasefire including the release of hostages held by
Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip.
But Itamar Ben Gvir, Israel’s national security minister, said his party would
“dissolve the government” if the deal went through, describing the proposal
as “a victory for terrorism and a security risk to the State of Israel”.
“Agreeing to such a deal is not total victory – but total defeat,” he said.
Bezalel Smotrich, the finance minister, said he would “not be part of a
government that will agree to the proposed outline”.
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Date: June 02, 2024 at 17:48:42
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ben Gvir, “Agreeing to deal is not total victory – but total... |
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b en gvir wanrs gaza as israel property. move all
Palestinians somewhere else because it is now
unliveable. bibi does also. i liked the show about
Zionism on alj.
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Date: June 02, 2024 at 18:50:41
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ben Gvir, “Agreeing to deal is not total victory – but total... |
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ain't it curious how a people who looked so hard for own state want to prevent another group from getting one...
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Date: June 04, 2024 at 08:09:03
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ben Gvir, “Agreeing to deal is not total victory – but total... |
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;they mean to add that to their land
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:41:33
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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Gee, I don't know, maybe I missed it? I certainly don't lie like you do.
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:50:27
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:50:00
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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That's because I haven't lied.
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 14:18:50
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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You lie here every day, it really is that simple. You put words in people's
mouths. You attribute quotes to people who never said them.. you lie.
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 16:00:51
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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When someone unconsciously attributes their thoughts, feelings, or
behaviors to another person, they are projecting.
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 17:15:16
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why'd you omit this middle portion of the article, ao? |
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That's the term I was looking for.
TY
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Date: May 31, 2024 at 13:27:11
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Biden lays out Israeli ceasefire proposal |
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hamas might wait until bibi signs off. i think the
proposal is good for Palestine. i hope hamas agrees
because it has most of their requests. i don't know
where Palestine to get funds to restore Gaza. israel
should provide most of the funds. but with all
economies crashing at least gaza will be free.
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