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53693


Date: April 10, 2024 at 10:54:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 26k children killed, all Biden says "I don’t agree with his approach'

URL: https://twitter.com/justfp/status/1778092417129804158


Because Biden is a sociopath.

"After 6 months of war & 26K children in Gaza killed/injured (per
@SavetheChildren
), Biden says:

"I don’t agree with his approach"

He waited until the brutal Gaza military operation he backed & armed was
nearly complete to begin to criticize Netanyahu:.."


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53695


Date: April 10, 2024 at 11:06:21
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 26 thek children killed, and still you want Hamas to fight



...still you want Hamas to fight from under the skirts
of women, under hospital beds, stealing food from
starving children?

You have a strange choice of heroes.



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53705


Date: April 10, 2024 at 11:52:03
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 26 thek children killed, and still you want Hamas to fight


;if you believe that, you believe b ibi's lies.


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53711


Date: April 10, 2024 at 15:31:33
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 26 thek children killed, and still you want Hamas to fight



What lies?

I give less than zero credibility to him.

As far as I know he is dragging this "war" out to put
Biden out so he can have space for Trump Gaza.


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53698


Date: April 10, 2024 at 11:18:32
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 26 thek children killed, and still you want Hamas to fight

URL: https://www.juancole.com/2024/04/murderbot-programmed-palestinian.html


If Biden is anyone's hero, he's yours, no mine.

meanwhile in Genocide news...

Israel’s Lavender Murderbot is Programmed to Kill up to a Third of all
Palestinian Civilians in Gaza
JUAN COLE
04/04/2024

Ann Arbor (Informed Comment) – The incredibly brave and resourceful Israeli
journalist Yuval Abraham revealed Wednesday in a hard-hitting piece of
investigative journalism that the Israeli military has used two artificial
intelligence programs, “Lavender” and “Where’s Daddy,” to target some
37,000 alleged members of the military wings of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
The programs used GPS to discover when a Hamas member had gone home,
since it was easiest to hit them there, ensuring that his wife and children
would also be killed. If he lived in an apartment building, which most did, then
all the civilians in neighboring apartments could also be killed– children,
women, non-combatant men.

Science fiction writer Martha Wells has authored a series of novels and short
stories about a “Murderbot.”, an artificial intelligence in the body of an
armored warrior. Her Murderbot, despite being lethal, is a good guy, and in
noir style frees himself from the control of his corporate overlords to protect
his friends.

The Israeli army, in contrast, is acting much more robotically.

Lavender is just a program and doesn’t have a body attached, but uses
Israeli fighter jet pilots as an extension of itself.

The AI programs identified the Hamas militants according to vague
specifications. It is known to have a 10% error rate and in other cases the
supposed militant might have only loose connections to the Qassam
Brigades paramilitary or the IJ. There was, Abraham writes, almost no human
supervision over the working of the algorithm.

AI Lavender, at a 10% error rate, could have identified 3,700 men in Gaza as
Hamas guerrillas when they weren’t. It could have allowed as many as 20
civilians to be killed in each strike on each of these innocents, That would
give a total of 77,700 noncombatants blown arbitrarily away by an inaccurate
machine.

One of Abraham’s sources inside the Israeli army said, “We were not
interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military
building or engaged in a military activity,” A., an intelligence officer, told +972
and Local Call. “On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without
hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The
system is built to look for them in these situations.”

I hope the International Court of Justice, which is considering whether Israel
is committing a genocide, is reading +972 Mag.

The AI program included extremely loose rules of engagement on civilian
casualties. It was set to permit 10-20 civilians to be killed as part of a strike
on a low-level Hamas member, and up to 100 civilians could be killed to get
at a senior member. These new rules of engagement are unprecedented
even in the brutal Israeli army.

The “Where’s Daddy” program identified and tracked the members.

37,000 Hamas paramilitary fighters did not carry out October 7. Most of them
did not know about it beforehand. It was a tiny, tight clique that planned and
executed it. The civilian wing of Hamas was the elected government of Gaza,
and its security forces provided law and order (refugee camps are most often
lawless). It may be that Lavender and “Where’s Daddy” swept up ordinary
police in the definition of low-level Hamas fighters, which would explain a lot.


“Gaza Guernica 12: Terminator,” by Juan Cole, Digital, Dream, PS Express,
IbisPaint, 2023

This new video game way of war violates the Rules of Engagment of the US
military and all the precepts of International Humanitarian Law. The Marine
Corps Rules of Engagement say,

c. Do not strike any of the following except in self defense to protect yourself,
your unit, friendly forces, and designated persons or property under your
control:
– Civilians.

– Hospitals, mosques, churches, shrines, schools, museums, national
monuments, and other historical and cultural sites.

d. Do not fire into civilian populated areas or buildings unless the enemy is
using them for military purposes or if necessary for your self-defense.
Minimize collateral damage.

e. Do not target enemy Infrastructure (public works, commercial
communications facilities, dams), Lines of Communication (roads, highways,
tunnels, bridges, railways) and Economic Objects (commercial storage
facilities, pipelines) unless necessary self- defense or if ordered by your
commander. If you must fire on these objects to engage a hostile force,
disable and disrupt but avoid destruction of these objects, if possible.

None of the Israeli “soldiers” operating Lavender were in danger from the
civilians they killed. They made no effort to “minimize collateral damage.” In
fact, they built very substantial collateral damage into their standard
operating procedure.

If the Israeli military killed an average of 20 civilians each time they struck
one of the 37,000 alleged militants, that would be 740,000 deaths, or three
quarters of a million. Of babies, toddlers, pregnant mothers, unarmed
women, unarmed teenagers, etc., etc. That would be about a third of the
total Gaza population.

That is certainly a genocide, however, you wish to define the term.

And there is no way that Joe Biden and Antony Blinken haven’t known all this
all along. It is on them.

Filed Under: Featured, Genocide, Israel/ Palestine, Joe Biden, US Foreign
Policy, War Crimes


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53712


Date: April 10, 2024 at 15:39:04
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 26 thek children killed, and still you want Hamas to fight



You are complaining about a 10% error rate when in a
war the usual error rate is much, much higher?

ESPECIALLY in a situation where the fighters are hiding
in civilian populations, hospitals and aid stations.

Why aren't you calling for Hamas to surrender rather
than demonizing Israelis?




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