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97830
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California Sierra
URL: https://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/storm-forecast-10-feet-snow-california-sierra-18691638.php
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Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California Sierra By Amy Graff Feb 27, 2024 An extraordinary winter storm is poised to sweep California’s Sierra Nevada from Thursday through Sunday. Meteorologists are predicting it will bring the heaviest snowfall so far this season, with up to 10 feet of snow possible at the highest elevations, according to the National Weather Service. Snowfall rates could reach up to 1 to 3 inches of snow per hour, bringing whiteout conditions with zero visibility across the Sierra. “Snow amounts will be so much and difficult to accurately measure due to strong winds producing prolonged periods of near zero visibility, and blowing/drifting snow capable of burying vehicles and making it difficult to locate roads,” the weather service’s Reno office, which provides the forecast for the Lake Tahoe Basin, wrote in its forecast. “Even walking outside would not be advised during this storm as a person could quickly become lost or disoriented.” The message meteorologists are trying to get out: Stay home. Rich Bann, a forecaster with the weather service’s Weather Prediction Center, said the storm will dump snow across Washington and Oregon on Wednesday and Thursday before pushing into California on Thursday. He suspects the heaviest snowfall across the southern Cascades and the Sierra Nevada will occur on Friday into Saturday. “There will also be a lot of strong winds and that will cause a lot of drifting of snow, making travel difficult to impossible in the mountains,” Bann said. “It goes without saying as the storm continues inland, much colder air will sweep in by the weekend with temperatures 10 to 20 degrees below normal.” Truckee, a Sierra town that’s a popular spot for skiers to stay overnight, is expected to see a low of 18 degrees on Friday night and 11 degrees on Saturday night. ⚠ A very strong winter storm is expected to impact our region Thu-Sun. This storm continues to show impressive signals for the heaviest snowfall so far this season in the Sierra. Winter Storm Watch: https://t.co/k76LRXQVor High Wind Watch: https://t.co/NNHJg6gpVM #nvwx #cawx pic.twitter.com/f3BLHyEAuF — NWS Reno (@NWSReno) February 26, 2024 “A big deal” is what UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain called the storm on social media. Swain, who has become a spokesperson for California weather through his Weather West blog, said the storm will bring snow whiplash, as the Sierra has seen a generally slow snow season. Fall was abnormally dry and winter has seen several warmer storms that brought more rain than snow. This storm is expected to bolster the snowpack. The weather service’s Sacramento office, which provides the forecast for people driving highways 50 and 80 between Tahoe and the Central Valley, sounded the alarm bells on Tuesday, warning people to stay home this weekend. “A MAJOR winter storm will bring EXTREMELY HEAVY mountain snow Thursday-Weekend,” the weather service posted on X, formerly Twitter. “Multiple FEET of snow are forecast with whiteout conditions and road closures likely. Heaviest snow above 3000 ft.” Snowfall levels could reach as low as 2,000 feet by the weekend, warned the Sacramento office, which covers the southern Cascades and western side of the Northern Sierra, including the highly traveled Donner and Echo passes. Elevations above 5,000 feet could see 5 to 10 feet of snow Thursday into Sunday. The office said Friday will be the worst day for travel in its forecast region. The Tahoe Basin could see 3 to 4 feet in South Lake and Truckee, as well as 5 to 8 feet for elevations above 7,000 feet, according to the weather service’s Reno office. |
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97847
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
URL: https://characterandleadership.com/why-do-meteorologists-over-hype-the-weather/
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Main part of the storm moved inland up on the Oregon Coast, didn't move far enough south like they thought it would, very typical. Lots of wind, but snow fall totals far below what they were forecasting. What I'm trying to say here is, me and others have noticed the media over hyping storms the last several years compared to years past for what ever reasons. More than not, the storms don't pan out like they say. Sure this storm had some good winds, but that is typical for low systems coming out of the Gulf of Alaska. Personally this wasn't a huge storm compared to many over the years. Here's a link describing what has changed with the media over hyping storms. I learned much in my earlier years watching Pete Giddings teach about these storms, and knew from observing the storm from early on, it was going to move over the North West and not come far enough south. If it would have moved farther south right over Tahoe, we would have had at least 15 feet of snow higher up with even more powerful winds. |
97849
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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We seemed to have missed most of it. We got (from a neighbor with a rain gauge) 1.5" of rain. It did snow last night, but did not stick. The winds here were not that bad at all. I would describe it as "breezy". And..for those that missed it, we live in the "southern" Sierras and had gotten a ton of wind/winter warnings as well. But hey, we can always use whatever rain we get. California still is recharging it's ground water, even if the reservoirs are doing well. |
97851
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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Appears the southern Sierra has received more moisture this season compared to the tahoe area which is needed down that way. We still have all of March to try and catch up to a normal snow pack, hopefully with less wind and more snow. Lake Tahoe is still pretty full from last year along with most lakes in Northern California, and would assume Southern California reservoirs are full due to all the heavy rain this season. |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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They're definitely doing much better. We also have a lot of ground water storage to recharge in our water tables. That takes a little longer to filter down. We have gotten a lot of rain, a little snow, but it's a good water year down here no matter how it goes down. Would like a little less wind, please lol (at least until we get the new shingles on the house which we're working on this spring). Hoping for a banner wildflower display this spring. |
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97848
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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i've noticed that too, to some extent...but this storm system did deliver 10'... Powerful blizzard dumps more than 10 feet of snow on California, disrupting traffic by Filip Timotija - 03/02/24 4:48 PM ET A strong blizzard is blasting through California, bringing wind gusts exceeding speeds of 190 mph and dumping over 10 feet of snow, leaving drivers stuck on the roads and forcing closures of ski resorts. Snow dumps will intensify at higher elevations as the Northern Sierra Nevada area is expected to get 7 to 12 inches of snow accumulations at lower elevations and 18 to 24 inches at higher elevations, according to the National Weather Service (NWS). The visibility will be at one-quarter mile or less. The busy Interstate 80, which connects Lake Tahoe and San Francisco, is closed due to the storm. “At one point, emergency personnel and tow trucks had a difficult time getting to motorists due to blizzard conditions,” the California Highway Patrol posted Saturday morning on X, formerly known as Twitter. The patrol is advising residents to stay at home. Troopers are working Saturday to clear the road with vehicles plowed on the motorway after drivers left them to get to a safe location. NWS warned that gusty winds and heavy snow can cause power outages and tree damage. Lake Tahoe’s Palisades Ski Resort is experiencing strong winds, as one wind gust was recorded at 190 mph Friday night. The storm, which prompted a blizzard warning across 300 miles, began hitting the region on Saturday. Heavy snowfall rates will continue through Sunday morning surpassing two inches per hour at times, according to NWS. |
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From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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Here's the last 24 hour snow totals from different areas around Tahoe, not too impressive, but not bad for the 7 day totals. Boreal did get 8 feet from the last 7 days. Tahoe has had the least snow totals this winter compared to the north and south due to the storms not pushing in on top of us. I know the Crescent City area has had some really decent rainfall this season. But all and all, California should be fine again this summer as far as water storage. And hopefully no large fires this summer. |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
URL: https://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/tahoe-buried-snow-safe-drive-18701483.php
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Tahoe buried in fresh snow: Here's when it will be safe to drive there By Amy Graff March 3, 2024 FILE - A sign is buried in deep snow along Highway 89 outside of Tahoe City, Calif., on Saturday, March 2, 2024. (Jane Tyska/Bay Area News Group via AP) Jane Tyska/AP Latest March 3, 5:40 p.m.: Caltrans on Sunday night said Interstate 80 will not reopen Sunday night, and that "With a break in the weather, we hope to be able to reopen I-80 sometime tomorrow." March 3, 9:24 a.m.: California's Sierra Nevada was hammered by a monster winter storm Saturday that kicked up powerful winds, dumped heavy snow and brought life-threatening blizzard conditions to the the mountain range. A large section of Interstate 80 remained closed Sunday morning, with no estimated time for reopening the highway that's a main route between the valley and Tahoe Basin, Caltrans said. Highway 50 is under chain control and has had several traffic holds. Travel to Tahoe is being discouraged Sunday, but there may be some windows when the roads are safe this week, officials said. This is why ALL mountain travel is highly discouraged. Not only is I-80 closed but US-50 has seen traffic holds for spin outs and avalanche control. Chain control (R2) Saw Mills to Meyers Trucks Max. SR-89 is also CLOSED from Emerald Bay to Bliss State Park. pic.twitter.com/3FP8WtLo3I — Caltrans District 3 (@CaltransDist3) March 2, 2024 While the most extreme weather had passed by Sunday morning, dangerous conditions are expected to continue through the day. "Conditions in the Sierra will be treacherous through tonight, with life-threatening travel conditions in snow and blowing snow," the National Weather Service said Sunday morning in its forecast. "Additional chances for snow showers will continue into Wednesday, especially for the Sierra north of US-50." The entire Sierra down to 2,000 feet was under a blizzard warning through Sunday morning. In many areas of the Sierra, the warning was extended: A blizzard warning for the western slope of the Sierra that was set to expire Sunday morning is now in effect through midnight, the weather service said. The greater Tahoe Basin is under a warning through 4 a.m. Monday. The weather service is forecasting moderate to heavy snowfall on Sunday in the Tahoe Basin and on the western Sierra, including Highway 50 and I-80, with another 0.5 to 2 feet of snow above 5,000 feet possible. Snowfall showers are predicted to be scattered and intermittent. "We're going to see nothing too extreme today," said Justin Collins, a forecaster with the weather service. "We may get up to 2 inches per hour at times." Collins said the west side of the Tahoe Basin is expected to pick up another 8 to 12 inches of snow today and the east side 2 to 6 inches. A break in the snow is expected Sunday night into Monday morning; winds are also forecast to calm. "The showers will start to lighten up late tonight," Collins said. "Tomorrow morning, for the morning commute, conditions will be better weather-wise. Hopefully the roads will be cleared by then. If all goes well, hopefully sometime tomorrow or maybe even tonight people can travel." A chance for snow returns Monday night and continues into Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday and Friday are expected to be mostly dry, although the forecast could change in coming days. Snow falls downtown, north of Lake Tahoe, during a powerful multiple day winter storm in the Sierra Nevada mountains on March 02, 2024 in Truckee, California. Snow falls downtown, north of Lake Tahoe, during a powerful multiple day winter storm in the Sierra Nevada mountains on March 02, 2024 in Truckee, California. Mario Tama/Getty Images "Thursday and Friday could provide good travel days," he said. "There's potentially another system on Saturday. Something is going to move in this weekend. We just don't know exactly what yet." Few snowfall totals from the weekend storm had been shared as of Sunday morning. These will be tricky to nail down with the snow still blowing all around. Palisades Tahoe in the Tahoe Basin said Saturday morning the ski resort has received 6 feet of fresh powder in the last two days. |
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97833
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
URL: https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G18§or=np&band=GEOCOLOR&length=12
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This is what a strong cold low pressure system looks like, with plenty of moisture being fed right into California. Sauce for the goose, for this man. But everyone be safe, and get prepared. And all those to the east, who will have to deal with this next. |
97835
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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yeah, we got a warning in the southern sierras, as well. Our level, only probably a foot (rather than 10). But still, restocking firewood and checking supplies. Grandson has back up plans to stay in town to be able to get to work easier. Beautiful today, though . Currently about 64F on the front porch, sunny--dog in the yard just laying out full in the sun. Soak it up, pup..this too shall pass. |
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97834
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Here's our Blizzard Warning
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Blizzard Warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Sacramento CA 200 AM PST Wed Feb 28 2024 CAZ066>069-290000- /O.CON.KSTO.BZ.W.0001.240229T1200Z-240303T1800Z/ Northeast Foothills/Sacramento Valley-Motherlode- Western Plumas County/Lassen Park- West Slope Northern Sierra Nevada- Including the cities of Paradise, Grass Valley, Jackson, Chester, Quincy, and Blue Canyon 200 AM PST Wed Feb 28 2024 ...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 10 AM PST SUNDAY... * WHAT...Extremely dangerous to impossible travel from blizzard conditions Friday into Saturday morning. Total snow accumulations of 5 to 10 feet above 5000 feet, with 1 to 4 feet above 3000 feet from Thursday through Sunday morning. Minor accumulations down to around 2000 feet. Winds gusting as high as 75 mph or higher. * WHERE...West Slope Northern Sierra Nevada, Northeast Foothills, Motherlode, and Western Plumas County/Lassen Park above 2000 feet. Including Interstate 80 and Highway 50. * WHEN...From 4 AM Thursday to 10 AM PST Sunday. * IMPACTS...Extremely dangerous to impossible travel conditions with extended road closures likely. Widespread blowing snow will create blizzard conditions with white-out conditions and near zero visibility. Very strong winds, combined with heavy snow could cause extensive tree damage and extended power outages. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow levels initially around 5000 to 6000 feet, lowering to 4000 to 5000 feet Friday, and down to around 2000 feet by Saturday. Snow rates of 2 to 4 inches per hour at times. Blizzard conditions expected Friday into Saturday morning when snowfall is heaviest. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Travel should be restricted to emergencies only. If you must travel, have a winter survival kit with you. If you get stranded, stay with your vehicle. The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can be obtained by calling 5 1 1. && $$ |
97837
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here's our Blizzard Warning
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Blizzard memory...only time I almost perished due to weather. Big one came unexpectedly while I was at work in the midwest...trying to get home on a two lane road on a slope without any visibility with zero blizzard experience. I did not know it was that bad till I got out in it and it became worse. I did make it after I pulled over and in the one place I could and waited till a snow plow came along with the big lights and I got behind that and made it home...whew. |
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97836
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here's our Blizzard Warning
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Here's ours: Advisory: Winter Storm Warning until 10:00AM Sunday Dear Nixle User, * WHAT...Snow accumulations 4 to 6 feet above 6000 feet. Total snow 2 to 4 feet from 5000 feet to 6000 feet. Snowfall 1 to 2 feet from 4000 feet to 5000 feet. Total snow accumulations 1 to 2 feet above 2500 feet. Winds may gust as high as 55 mph on exposed ridgetops and along the crest. * WHERE...Grant Grove Area, Sequoia NP and South End of the Upper Sierra. * WHEN...From 4 AM Friday to 10 AM PST Sunday. * IMPACTS...Travel will be very difficult to impossible, and is not advised. Widespread blowing snow could significantly reduce visibility. Gusty winds could bring down tree branches. The cold wind chills as low as 15 to 20 below zero can cause frostbite on exposed skin. * AFFECTED AREAS: GRANT GROVE AREA ... SEQUOIA NP ... SOUTH END OF THE UPPER SIERRA Instructions: If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in your vehicle in case of an emergency. The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can be obtained by calling 5 1 1. |
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97831
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Extraordinary storm could bring 10 feet of snow to California...
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We'll see! I remember growing up as a kid in the North Bay watching and learning from the best meteorologist Pere Giddings KGO channel 7 news. He and his manager had a heated argument due to the manager wanting Pete to start doing a 7 day forecast because every news station was doing them now. Pete knew that due to our latitude, it wasn't a good idea to go that far out with 7 days. And growing up watching Pete, I'd witnessed exactly what he was talking about watching these big storms forecast to come in, and they would split, move south and track and go down the coast, or stall off the coast, happened so often. The further north you go from the Bay Area, the more predictable the storms were. But we will see more or less when the storm arrives here in the Sierra as we could only get 5 feet, or even 15 feet. People will still come up, get stuck (crappie tires), complain as their stuck in line on the hwy going nowhere for many hours. Happens every time as Caltrans get the order from the CHP to shut down the highways due to white out conditions and accidents(crappie tires and don't know how to drive in the snow). |
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